Color Vision Tests

Hello. I am planning to implement the Farnsworth Munsell 100 Hue Test
at my work. What I am not certain of is whether I also need to
implement a pseudoisochromatic plate test, such a the Ishihara or HRR.
Will the FM 100 hue test tell me everything that the
pseudoisochromatic plate tests do or do I need to supplement it with
the pseudoisochromatic test?

Thanks,
Ken

On Nov 5, 11:52*am, PTKen <k-fleis...@nga.gov> wrote:
> Hello. I am planning to implement the Farnsworth Munsell 100 Hue Test
> at my work. What I am not certain of is whether I also need to
> implement a pseudoisochromatic plate test, such a the Ishihara or HRR.
> Will the FM 100 hue test tell me everything that the
> pseudoisochromatic plate tests do or do I need to supplement it with
> the pseudoisochromatic test?
>
> Thanks,
> Ken

If you don't know the answer to this question, you do not know enough
about colour vision testing to administer the 100 Hue Test and
understand its results. It is a complex test and very time consuming
to administer. For what purposes are you using the 100 hue test? If
it is the recommended test for licensing, the licensing body should be
providing you with details of what tests and test results are
acceptable, whether plates would be an acceptable alternative and
someone should be training you on how to administer the tests.

Dr Judy

On Nov 6, 11:02 am, Dr Judy <mpac...@rogers.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 11:52 am, PTKen <k-fleis...@nga.gov> wrote:
>
> > Hello. I am planning to implement the Farnsworth Munsell 100 Hue Test
> > at my work. What I am not certain of is whether I also need to
> > implement a pseudoisochromatic plate test, such a the Ishihara or HRR.
> > Will the FM 100 hue test tell me everything that the
> > pseudoisochromatic plate tests do or do I need to supplement it with
> > the pseudoisochromatic test?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
>
> If you don't know the answer to this question, you do not know enough
> about colour vision testing to administer the 100 Hue Test and
> understand its results. It is a complex test and very time consuming
> to administer. For what purposes are you using the 100 hue test? If
> it is the recommended test for licensing, the licensing body should be
> providing you with details of what tests and test results are
> acceptable, whether plates would be an acceptable alternative and
> someone should be training you on how to administer the tests.
>
> Dr Judy

While I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my post, I don't
feel I need to justify why I asked the question, why I need to
implement the test(s), or whether or not I'm qualified to administer
the test(s) and interpret the results. A simple answer to my question
would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Ken

PTKen schreef:
> On Nov 6, 11:02 am, Dr Judy <mpac...@rogers.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 5, 11:52 am, PTKen <k-fleis...@nga.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello. I am planning to implement the Farnsworth Munsell 100 Hue Test
>>> at my work. What I am not certain of is whether I also need to
>>> implement a pseudoisochromatic plate test, such a the Ishihara or HRR.
>>> Will the FM 100 hue test tell me everything that the
>>> pseudoisochromatic plate tests do or do I need to supplement it with
>>> the pseudoisochromatic test?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ken
>> If you don't know the answer to this question, you do not know enough
>> about colour vision testing to administer the 100 Hue Test and
>> understand its results. It is a complex test and very time consuming
>> to administer. For what purposes are you using the 100 hue test? If
>> it is the recommended test for licensing, the licensing body should be
>> providing you with details of what tests and test results are
>> acceptable, whether plates would be an acceptable alternative and
>> someone should be training you on how to administer the tests.
>>
>> Dr Judy
>
> While I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my post, I don't
> feel I need to justify why I asked the question, why I need to
> implement the test(s), or whether or not I'm qualified to administer
> the test(s) and interpret the results. A simple answer to my question
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ken

TMHO Dr Judy gives you a very simple answer on an obvious laymen question.
She did not asked you to justify why you asked the question she only
asked you for what purpose you need the test(s) to give you a better
simple answer then is possible on your incomplete question.
And most certainly the answer should simple be that you should keep away
from stuff you do not understand.

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

On Nov 6, 1:36*pm, PTKen <k-fleis...@nga.gov> wrote:
>>
> While I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my post, I don't
> feel I need to justify why I asked the question, why I need to
> implement the test(s), or whether or not I'm qualified to administer
> the test(s) and interpret the results. A simple answer to my question
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you.



A simple answer? Yes. Satisfied?

On Nov 6, 1:36*pm, PTKen <k-fleis...@nga.gov> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 11:02 am, Dr Judy <mpac...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 5, 11:52 am, PTKen <k-fleis...@nga.gov> wrote:
>
> > > Hello. I am planning to implement the Farnsworth Munsell 100 Hue Test
> > > at my work. What I am not certain of is whether I also need to
> > > implement a pseudoisochromatic plate test, such a the Ishihara or HRR..
> > > Will the FM 100 hue test tell me everything that the
> > > pseudoisochromatic plate tests do or do I need to supplement it with
> > > the pseudoisochromatic test?
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ken
>
> > If you don't know the answer to this question, you do not know enough
> > about colour vision testing to administer the 100 Hue Test and
> > understand its results. *It is a complex test and very time consuming
> > to administer. *For what purposes are you using the 100 hue test? *If
> > it is the recommended test for licensing, the licensing body should be
> > providing you with details of what tests and test results are
> > acceptable, whether plates would be an acceptable alternative and
> > someone should be training you on how to administer the tests.
>
> > Dr Judy
>
> While I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my post, I don't
> feel I need to justify why I asked the question, why I need to
> implement the test(s), or whether or not I'm qualified to administer
> the test(s) and interpret the results. A simple answer to my question
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ken- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The simple answer is yes.

The more complex answer is that the 100 Hue test gives quite a bit
more information than the plates, is difficult for the person to do,
is complex to analyse and will find many more minor colour defects
than the plates. Depending on your reason for needing to do colour
vision testing, the plates alone may be enough.

Judy