Contact Lens Tollerance, Dr. G. and others

Hello everybody,

Last time I postet in this group was about 3 years ago.

My problem is that I have high myopia (about 10 diopters and 0.75
astigmatism on both eyes). Thus I prefer to wear contact lenses instead
of glasses. About 6 years ago (at age 24) I lost my contact lens
tollerance. That was because of dry eyes and redness during lens wear.

I must say that opticians and eye doctors did not help me at all in
finding root causes and effective remedies (I guess I didn't meet the
right ones). So I did a lot of research in this group and other
websites such as SurgicalEyes. I tried artificial tears, mast cell
stabilizers (against blepharitis, I am not allergic), antibiotics, Lid
therapy for meibomian gland dysfunction, fish oil, vitamines. One of
the most effective treatments of the above was Lid therapy. But it was
not sufficient to obtain contact lens tollerance.

I tried every kind of contact lens, including silicon hydrogels of
every brand and RGP lenses. I feel that RGPs are the best contact
lenses because they give really good vision and do not stuck to the
eye. But I could not really tolerate RGPs.

Then I started to research about refractive surgery but I understood
that there is no good refractive surgery and probably there won't be
for many years to come.

So, I finally gave up and started to wear glasses full time. That was a
good decision because it helped me to concentrate on my life instead of
thinking all the time about my irritated eyes.

One year ago (that is after 5 years of contact lenst intollerance) I
started to try probiotics and prebiotics. When I tried the prebiotic
Inuline my eyes suddenly started to produce good tears. Inulin is a
natural sugar (oligosacharide) contained in some vegetables like onions
but it is better to buy it in the pharmacy as powder. 1kg costs about
15 Euro and lasts for half a year. It not only makes the eyes tear
again but also makes the meibomian glands work better (I think the fat
becomes less solid and flows through the glands again).

The final breakthrough for me was not Inulin but Lactose which is also
a prebiotic. Lactose is the sugar contained in milk. Strangely drinking
mild makes my eyes go dry. But drinking water with one teaspoon of
lactose powder makes my eyes tear such as Inulin does. And further my
blepharitis disappears completely (which was not the case with Inulin).
Now I can wear RGP lenses as long as I want. I have perfect vision and
white eyes throughout the day.

This is my story. It took me 6 years of research to obtain contact lens
tollerance again thanks to one teaspoon of lactose powder taken twice a
day dissolved in a glass of water.

Sorry for writing such a long article in my bad english. But I wanted
you to know...

Got my radar up and going too. The National Library of Medicine has
nothing on this and references don't seem to tie in to eye care.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.

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All Rights Reserved

eric_8_7_5 wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> Last time I postet in this group was about 3 years ago.
>
> My problem is that I have high myopia (about 10 diopters and 0.75
> astigmatism on both eyes). Thus I prefer to wear contact lenses instead
> of glasses. About 6 years ago (at age 24) I lost my contact lens
> tollerance. That was because of dry eyes and redness during lens wear.
>
> I must say that opticians and eye doctors did not help me at all in
> finding root causes and effective remedies (I guess I didn't meet the
> right ones). So I did a lot of research in this group and other
> websites such as SurgicalEyes. I tried artificial tears, mast cell
> stabilizers (against blepharitis, I am not allergic), antibiotics, Lid
> therapy for meibomian gland dysfunction, fish oil, vitamines. One of
> the most effective treatments of the above was Lid therapy. But it was
> not sufficient to obtain contact lens tollerance.
>
> I tried every kind of contact lens, including silicon hydrogels of
> every brand and RGP lenses. I feel that RGPs are the best contact
> lenses because they give really good vision and do not stuck to the
> eye. But I could not really tolerate RGPs.
>
> Then I started to research about refractive surgery but I understood
> that there is no good refractive surgery and probably there won't be
> for many years to come.
>
> So, I finally gave up and started to wear glasses full time. That was a
> good decision because it helped me to concentrate on my life instead of
> thinking all the time about my irritated eyes.
>
> One year ago (that is after 5 years of contact lenst intollerance) I
> started to try probiotics and prebiotics. When I tried the prebiotic
> Inuline my eyes suddenly started to produce good tears. Inulin is a
> natural sugar (oligosacharide) contained in some vegetables like onions
> but it is better to buy it in the pharmacy as powder. 1kg costs about
> 15 Euro and lasts for half a year. It not only makes the eyes tear
> again but also makes the meibomian glands work better (I think the fat
> becomes less solid and flows through the glands again).
>
> The final breakthrough for me was not Inulin but Lactose which is also
> a prebiotic. Lactose is the sugar contained in milk. Strangely drinking
> mild makes my eyes go dry. But drinking water with one teaspoon of
> lactose powder makes my eyes tear such as Inulin does. And further my
> blepharitis disappears completely (which was not the case with Inulin).
> Now I can wear RGP lenses as long as I want. I have perfect vision and
> white eyes throughout the day.
>


I have not heard of probiotics having any effect on eyelids/eyes (
probiotics functions mostly to stabilize gut flora) but it may have a
small anti-inflammatory
effect so there may be some correlation between a chronic lid
problem (blepharitis). I have not heard of this in any literature
I have come across though. I would think something like
omega-3 would have more of an effect than the probiotics.

frank

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> eric_8_7_5 wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > Last time I postet in this group was about 3 years ago.
> >
> > My problem is that I have high myopia (about 10 diopters and 0.75
> > astigmatism on both eyes). Thus I prefer to wear contact lenses instead
> > of glasses. About 6 years ago (at age 24) I lost my contact lens
> > tollerance. That was because of dry eyes and redness during lens wear.
> >
> > I must say that opticians and eye doctors did not help me at all in
> > finding root causes and effective remedies (I guess I didn't meet the
> > right ones). So I did a lot of research in this group and other
> > websites such as SurgicalEyes. I tried artificial tears, mast cell
> > stabilizers (against blepharitis, I am not allergic), antibiotics, Lid
> > therapy for meibomian gland dysfunction, fish oil, vitamines. One of
> > the most effective treatments of the above was Lid therapy. But it was
> > not sufficient to obtain contact lens tollerance.
> >
> > I tried every kind of contact lens, including silicon hydrogels of
> > every brand and RGP lenses. I feel that RGPs are the best contact
> > lenses because they give really good vision and do not stuck to the
> > eye. But I could not really tolerate RGPs.
> >
> > Then I started to research about refractive surgery but I understood
> > that there is no good refractive surgery and probably there won't be
> > for many years to come.
> >
> > So, I finally gave up and started to wear glasses full time. That was a
> > good decision because it helped me to concentrate on my life instead of
> > thinking all the time about my irritated eyes.
> >
> > One year ago (that is after 5 years of contact lenst intollerance) I
> > started to try probiotics and prebiotics. When I tried the prebiotic
> > Inuline my eyes suddenly started to produce good tears. Inulin is a
> > natural sugar (oligosacharide) contained in some vegetables like onions
> > but it is better to buy it in the pharmacy as powder. 1kg costs about
> > 15 Euro and lasts for half a year. It not only makes the eyes tear
> > again but also makes the meibomian glands work better (I think the fat
> > becomes less solid and flows through the glands again).
> >
> > The final breakthrough for me was not Inulin but Lactose which is also
> > a prebiotic. Lactose is the sugar contained in milk. Strangely drinking
> > mild makes my eyes go dry. But drinking water with one teaspoon of
> > lactose powder makes my eyes tear such as Inulin does. And further my
> > blepharitis disappears completely (which was not the case with Inulin).
> > Now I can wear RGP lenses as long as I want. I have perfect vision and
> > white eyes throughout the day.
> >
>
>
> I have not heard of probiotics having any effect on eyelids/eyes (
> probiotics functions mostly to stabilize gut flora) but it may have a
> small anti-inflammatory
> effect so there may be some correlation between a chronic lid
> problem (blepharitis). I have not heard of this in any literature
> I have come across though. I would think something like
> omega-3 would have more of an effect than the probiotics.
>
> frank



I also find his case interesting even though I am not a doctor. I could
never tolerate contacts for long, but because my eyes are nowhere near
as bad as his -10 I see and cope fine with glasses. Ill be getting
orthoK though and if I have any problems, maybe I should give
probiotics under an optometrist supervision a try. Seeing that orthoK
costs $1500, once I get it, I am not giving up so soon, so easily. Glad
to see you finally got your RGP contacts working. Ill be very happy
when orthoK improves my vision and I dont really need glasses any
longer

Ace wrote:
>
>
>
> I also find his case interesting even though I am not a doctor. I could
> never tolerate contacts for long, but because my eyes are nowhere near
> as bad as his -10 I see and cope fine with glasses. Ill be getting
> orthoK though and if I have any problems, maybe I should give
> probiotics under an optometrist supervision a try. Seeing that orthoK
> costs $1500, once I get it, I am not giving up so soon, so easily. Glad
> to see you finally got your RGP contacts working. Ill be very happy
> when orthoK improves my vision and I dont really need glasses any
> longer


Of course the retard has to stick his pimply nose in where he knows
nothing again.
No, you are not a doctor but your stupidity does rise to epic
proportions.

serebel wrote:
> Ace wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I also find his case interesting even though I am not a doctor. I could
> > never tolerate contacts for long, but because my eyes are nowhere near
> > as bad as his -10 I see and cope fine with glasses. Ill be getting
> > orthoK though and if I have any problems, maybe I should give
> > probiotics under an optometrist supervision a try. Seeing that orthoK
> > costs $1500, once I get it, I am not giving up so soon, so easily. Glad
> > to see you finally got your RGP contacts working. Ill be very happy
> > when orthoK improves my vision and I dont really need glasses any
> > longer
>
>
> Of course the retard has to stick his pimply nose in where he knows
> nothing again.
> No, you are not a doctor but your stupidity does rise to epic
> proportions.


Can you please say something constructive once for all instead of
insulting everyone? You may believe I am a "retard" but at least I am
polite and offer constructive advice.

Ace wrote:
>
> Can you please say something constructive once for all instead of
> insulting everyone? You may believe I am a "retard" but at least I am
> polite and offer constructive advice.


Polite is one thing, but what you post is idiotic and juvenille. If
you don't like it, too damn bad!!

Ace wrote:

> I am a "retard" but at least I am
> polite and offer constructive advice.
>

Where?

> I have not heard of probiotics having any effect on eyelids/eyes (
> probiotics functions mostly to stabilize gut flora) but it may have a
> small anti-inflammatory
> effect so there may be some correlation between a chronic lid
> problem (blepharitis). I have not heard of this in any literature
> I have come across though. I would think something like
> omega-3 would have more of an effect than the probiotics.
>
> frank

I must admit that there is really no evidence on the internet. Furhter
I can only talk for myself. For me Prebiotics do very well. Without I
just can't wear contact lenses. That's a fact. Some weeks ago I ran out
of Lactose powder and the pharmacy took much more than expected to get
it again. I had to go back to spectacles for 2 weeks. At my last eye
exam I could read the 150%-line with my rgp lenses (is that 15/10?).
Years ago I read only 100% (which is 20/20 I think).

If I remember well I found some people on the Internet who use
prebiotics to treat akne. Maybe metabolism of fats can be a key. Fish
oil increased my tear volume when I tried it. But it's nothing compared
to lactose or Inulin because I had to take lots of fish oil over the
day to make my eyes tear and furhter the blepharitis was not solved by
that.

When there are contact lens tollerance issues because of bad metabolism
of fats prebiotics could help. That's my guess.

One word to the difference between probiotics and prebiotics.
Probiotics are bacteria. That is you take the bacteria directly.
Prebiotcs are substances that help the good bacteria grow. I have found
that Prebiotics work better for me, maybe because they help to have a
more equilibrated gut flora supporting a wide range of different
bacteria. Further I think that the bacteria supported by Lactose are
healthier than those supported by inuline.

This is just my case. You may believe me or not. And naturally, I am
one person among billions of persons. But for me it works.

I would like it if inuline or lactose helped a lot of people. Would be
good for my ego if I found a cure for many which no one else could
find.

greetings,
Eric

If you want to try lactose powder please make sure that you don't get
granulate. Granulate contains some resin to form the granulate (also
called "mesh") and it smells like paint. It didn't work for me and
made me feel sick (they use it to press pills). Please make sure to
take white cristalline powder. Last time I paid 8 Euro for one kg and I
just use 2 teaspoons a day. Lasts a long time.