Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjuction w/ minus lenses?

Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:24:43 -0000, DarkProtoman
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
>lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
>of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
>slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
>chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
>of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?

Atropine. There's evidence that IT works.

On Jul 16, 1:41 pm, Neil Brooks <neil0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:24:43 -0000, DarkProtoman
>
> <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
> >lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
> >of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
> >slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
> >chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
> >of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?
>
> Atropine. There's evidence that IT works.

Atropine is a MYDRIATIC; it dilates your eyes --for about two weeks--.

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:53:50 -0000, DarkProtoman
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Jul 16, 1:41 pm, Neil Brooks <neil0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:24:43 -0000, DarkProtoman
>>
>> <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
>> >lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
>> >of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
>> >slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
>> >chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
>> >of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?
>>
>> Atropine. There's evidence that IT works.
>
>Atropine is a MYDRIATIC; it dilates your eyes --for about two weeks--.

Ayup, but it has a proven track record of slowing myopia progression.

Never heard of any such thing with a miotic. Doesn't mean it can't be
so, but....

They could, but why bother? They have some pretty horrible side effects
(headache, dim vision, night blindness, etc.), and they could
theoretically even cause an increase in myopia due to concurrent and
prolonged accommodative stimulation.

First do no harm.

w.stacy, o.d.

DarkProtoman wrote:

>Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
>lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
>of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
>slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
>chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
>of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?
>
>
>

On Jul 16, 4:45 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
> > lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
> > of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
> > slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
> > chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
> > of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?
>
> Neither miotic eyedrops nor pinhole glasses have any known effect on myopia.
>
> Atropine, OTOH, is well known to slow the progress of myopia.
>
> -MT

When my OD, Dr. Darcy C. Ryan at Hertzog Eye Associates -- Dr. Leif M.
Hertzog's my opthalmologist; http://hertzogeyecare.com/index.htm--,
performed my optometric eye exam --I had to then see Dr. Hertzog for
an opthalmologic eye exam, b/c I have grade II ROP; he told me I have
a very tiny cataract in both eyes-- he used pinhole glasses, and I
could see the chart better; not as well as w/ my eyeglasses, but
better than w/o them. So they must work.

BTW, have any of you had experience w/ Drs. Hertzog and/or Ryan? How
do you like them?

And you say that Atropine has no side effects?



On Jul 16, 7:45 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
> > lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
> > of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
> > slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
> > chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
> > of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?
>
> Neither miotic eyedrops nor pinhole glasses have any known effect on myopia.
>
> Atropine, OTOH, is well known to slow the progress of myopia.
>
> -MT

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:11:10 -0700, "(E-Mail Removed)"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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>And you say that Atropine has no side effects?

Who said that, Uncle Otie, and where?

Are you off the meds again? Didn't they warn you about that??

On Jul 16, 11:11 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
> And you say that Atropine has no side effects?
>
> On Jul 16, 7:45 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > > Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
> > > lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
> > > of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
> > > slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
> > > chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
> > > of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?
>
> > Neither miotic eyedrops nor pinhole glasses have any known effect on myopia.
>
> > Atropine, OTOH, is well known to slow the progress of myopia.
>
> > -MT

looks like Otis is spoiling for a fight

isn't it easy to see how Otis mixes up his facts? he thinks he hears
what he wants to hear.

So then, Atropine has a serious secondary effect?

"First do no harm".

Otis


On Jul 17, 6:44 am, p.clar...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 16, 11:11 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > And you say that Atropine has no side effects?
>
> > On Jul 16, 7:45 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > > "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > > > Could miotic eyedrops be used to treat myopia in conjunction w/ minus
> > > > lenses? Pinhole glasses increase depth of field and reduce the circle
> > > > of confusion on the retina, thus stopping down the iris' aperture and
> > > > slowing down the eye's lens speed; miotic eyedrops would basically be
> > > > chemical pinhole glasses. At the very least it would lessen the power
> > > > of the eyeglasses or contacts needed. What do you guys think?
>
> > > Neither miotic eyedrops nor pinhole glasses have any known effect on myopia.
>
> > > Atropine, OTOH, is well known to slow the progress of myopia.
>
> > > -MT
>
> looks like Otis is spoiling for a fight
>
> isn't it easy to see how Otis mixes up his facts? he thinks he hears
> what he wants to hear.- Hide quoted text -
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