The latest machine for eyeglasses prescriptions.

I heard the other day there was a new machine
for eyeglass prescriptions.

Evidently the patient looks into it at an
object (say a small model house) and the
machine determines from this just the type of
glasses reqd.

It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with
just one zap.

Has anyone heard of this, and can he supply a
name so I can check it out?

Please help, Peter

On Oct 22, 7:09 pm, "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
> I heard the other day there was a new machine
> for eyeglass prescriptions.
>
> Evidently the patient looks into it at an
> object (say a small model house) and the
> machine determines from this just the type of
> glasses reqd.
>
> It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with
> just one zap.
>
> Has anyone heard of this, and can he supply a
> name so I can check it out?
>
> Please help, Peter

Autorefractor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorefractor

It's not new.

"Peter Jason" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ffjl5s$i1p$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I heard the other day there was a new machine for eyeglass prescriptions.
>
> Evidently the patient looks into it at an object (say a small model house)
> and the machine determines from this just the type of glasses reqd.
>
> It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with just one zap.
>
> Has anyone heard of this, and can he supply a name so I can check it out?
>
> Please help, Peter

It is not as accurate as actually putting lenses in front of your eyes and
asking which is better, 1 or 2. A lot of OD's use it to get a starting place
for the exam.

"Neil Brooks" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
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> On Oct 22, 7:09 pm, "Peter Jason"
> <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
>> I heard the other day there was a new
>> machine
>> for eyeglass prescriptions.
>>
>> Evidently the patient looks into it at an
>> object (say a small model house) and the
>> machine determines from this just the type
>> of
>> glasses reqd.
>>
>> It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with
>> just one zap.
>>
>> Has anyone heard of this, and can he
>> supply a
>> name so I can check it out?
>>
>> Please help, Peter
>
> Autorefractor
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorefractor
>
> It's not new.


Thanks, why then are optometrists still using
the old machine requiring manual selection of
lenses?

I have Sphere/Cyl adjustment and I get
varying results from different optometrists.

I have some friends back from overseas, and
they order their glasses there because this
"autorefractor" device gives excellent and
automatic results.

Peter

On Oct 22, 10:09 pm, "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
> I heard the other day there was a new machine
> for eyeglass prescriptions.
>
> Evidently the patient looks into it at an
> object (say a small model house) and the
> machine determines from this just the type of
> glasses reqd.
>
> It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with
> just one zap.
>
> Has anyone heard of this, and can he supply a
> name so I can check it out?
>
> Please help, Peter

yeah. its called an autorefractor. they've been around for years.
they don't control for accommodation on the part of the patient very
well. for example, kids who are slightly farsighted oftentimes
autorefract as myopes.

they are nice to have as a reference or to help sort out cylinder axis
but there's NOTHING better than a good manual ret.

On Oct 23, 12:43 am, "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
> "Neil Brooks" <neil0...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> messagenews:(E-Mail Removed) ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 22, 7:09 pm, "Peter Jason"
> > <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
> >> I heard the other day there was a new
> >> machine
> >> for eyeglass prescriptions.
>
> >> Evidently the patient looks into it at an
> >> object (say a small model house) and the
> >> machine determines from this just the type
> >> of
> >> glasses reqd.
>
> >> It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with
> >> just one zap.
>
> >> Has anyone heard of this, and can he
> >> supply a
> >> name so I can check it out?
>
> >> Please help, Peter
>
> > Autorefractor
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorefractor
>
> > It's not new.
>
> Thanks, why then are optometrists still using
> the old machine requiring manual selection of
> lenses?

because they are inaccurate.

>
> I have Sphere/Cyl adjustment and I get
> varying results from different optometrists.

well you'd get WIDELY varying results from an autorefractor. they are
getting better, but still they are inaccurate and serve only as a
useful reference to a good manual refraction.

>
> I have some friends back from overseas, and
> they order their glasses there because this
> "autorefractor" device gives excellent and
> automatic results.

in some Asian countries they will sell you glasses based soley on a
autorefractor reading. bottome line is you'd end up with a lot of
glasses laying around that don't work very well.

On Oct 22, 11:43 pm, "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
> "Neil Brooks" <neil0...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> messagenews:(E-Mail Removed) ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 22, 7:09 pm, "Peter Jason"
> > <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
> >> I heard the other day there was a new
> >> machine
> >> for eyeglass prescriptions.
>
> >> Evidently the patient looks into it at an
> >> object (say a small model house) and the
> >> machine determines from this just the type
> >> of
> >> glasses reqd.
>
> >> It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with
> >> just one zap.
>
> >> Has anyone heard of this, and can he
> >> supply a
> >> name so I can check it out?
>
> >> Please help, Peter
>
> > Autorefractor
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorefractor
>
> > It's not new.
>
> Thanks, why then are optometrists still using
> the old machine requiring manual selection of
> lenses?
>
> I have Sphere/Cyl adjustment and I get
> varying results from different optometrists.
>
> I have some friends back from overseas, and
> they order their glasses there because this
> "autorefractor" device gives excellent and
> automatic results.
>
> Peter- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I find it useful to think of it this way. An autorefractor measures
the optics of the eye, and therefore what the eye sees. The
subjective refraction measures what the patient sees, i.e. after brain
interpretation.

On Oct 22, 11:09 pm, "Mark A" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ffjl5s$i1p$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> >I heard the other day there was a new machine for eyeglass prescriptions.
>
> > Evidently the patient looks into it at an object (say a small model house)
> > and the machine determines from this just the type of glasses reqd.
>
> > It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with just one zap.
>
> > Has anyone heard of this, and can he supply a name so I can check it out?
>
> > Please help, Peter
>
> It is not as accurate as actually putting lenses in front of your eyes and
> asking which is better, 1 or 2. A lot of OD's use it to get a starting place
> for the exam.

Solution:

Device first measures refraction and then t changes lenses in front of
eyes and asks
you "that better or that ?" like when you call you bank it asks you
questions.

To write software for that device - couple of weeks it will be done.
It will do the job even better then OD, it can work slower then some
women in the rush
for grossery shoping
How do you like that perspective?

On Oct 23, 7:48 am, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...@leukoma.com> wrote:
> On Oct 22, 11:43 pm, "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Neil Brooks" <neil0...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:(E-Mail Removed) ooglegroups.com...
>
> > > On Oct 22, 7:09 pm, "Peter Jason"
> > > <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
> > >> I heard the other day there was a new
> > >> machine
> > >> for eyeglass prescriptions.
>
> > >> Evidently the patient looks into it at an
> > >> object (say a small model house) and the
> > >> machine determines from this just the type
> > >> of
> > >> glasses reqd.
>
> > >> It can determine Cyl, Sphere & prism with
> > >> just one zap.
>
> > >> Has anyone heard of this, and can he
> > >> supply a
> > >> name so I can check it out?
>
> > >> Please help, Peter
>
> > > Autorefractor
>
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorefractor
>
> > > It's not new.
>
> > Thanks, why then are optometrists still using
> > the old machine requiring manual selection of
> > lenses?
>
> > I have Sphere/Cyl adjustment and I get
> > varying results from different optometrists.
>
> > I have some friends back from overseas, and
> > they order their glasses there because this
> > "autorefractor" device gives excellent and
> > automatic results.
>
> > Peter- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I find it useful to think of it this way. An autorefractor measures
> the optics of the eye, and therefore what the eye sees. The
> subjective refraction measures what the patient sees, i.e. after brain
> interpretation.

Then OD brainwash that brain like in case of that post about 13 old
kid
who are pushed into glasses with OD who wants more clients.

On Oct 23, 7:09 am, lena102938 <db00q...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Then OD brainwash that brain like in case of that post about 13 old
> kid
> who are pushed into glasses with OD who wants more clients.

Lena? Were you raped by an optometrist or other vision care
professional?

Seriously. Were you?

If so, then ... wouldn't law enforcement and a psychologist's office
be a more appropriate venue for your hatred than this forum?

Ya' see: this forum is SCIENCE.med.vision. All you bring is wrath,
scorn, hatred, bitterness, and resentment.

No information.

Time to seek professional help.