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Liz
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      09-22-2009, 01:09 AM
So far I am finding the most effective way to talk to docs is just to
make an appointment to see them.

Two have looked at my worser cataract. It has gotten to the point
where it has swelled a bit and thus is more involved to remove than it
would have been earlier.

One doc would (I think) inject a dye into the lens, I think to make it
easier to see so he could get it all out. (I think that was why.)
The other said the eye might need a larger incision to get it all out.
That it might leak protein crud, which would cause glaucoma, so it
should be done soon. That drops will be needed to prevent swelling of
the retina.
That I should use an Alcon IOL because the haptics are softer, so less
likely to get stuck on the edge of the cicular hole that will be cut
in the bag (or in other ways get stuck somewhere in the wrong place),
should this edge turn out not to cut cleanly because of the swelling.

That all people under 60 can expect post-capsular opacification.
(That seems a bit odd - there was disagreement on that one.)

Questions:
Does all this sound right?

Is the dye standard procedure?

Alcon does not make an aspheric IOL that is not blue-blocking.
I don't want blue-blocking.
If I get their regular in one eye and an aspheric dif brand in the
other, will that make things look different out of the two eyes?

thanks,

Liz in Indy
(more info soon to come)
(EEEEEEEK I didn't realize they had to touch your eyeball to do an A-
scan.)
 
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Otis
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      09-22-2009, 01:32 AM

Dear Liz,

Subject: A video on cataract surgery -- and the issues you are
considering.

This is a long video. The more you know -- the better your choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGoT3...eature=related

My choice was the "clear distant" vision choice.

On a scale of 1 to 10 -- I value my distant vision as a "10" -- and my
use of a "plus" for near as a "1".

As always, a "Trade-off".

Did this video help you?

Enjoy,



On Sep 21, 9:09*pm, Liz <fraternobom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So far I am finding the most effective way to talk to docs is just to
> make an appointment to see them.
>
> Two have looked at my worser cataract. *It has gotten to the point
> where it has swelled a bit and thus is more involved to remove than it
> would have been earlier.
>
> One doc would (I think) inject a dye into the lens, I think to make it
> easier to see so he could get it all out. *(I think that was why.)
> The other said the eye might need a larger incision to get it all out.
> That it might leak protein crud, which would cause glaucoma, so it
> should be done soon. *That drops will be needed to prevent swelling of
> the retina.
> That I should use an Alcon IOL because the haptics are softer, so less
> likely to get stuck on the edge of the cicular hole that will be cut
> in the bag (or in other ways get stuck somewhere in the wrong place),
> should this edge turn out not to cut cleanly because of the swelling.
>
> That all people under 60 can expect post-capsular opacification.
> (That seems a bit odd - there was disagreement on that one.)
>
> Questions:
> Does all this sound right?
>
> Is the dye standard procedure?
>
> Alcon does not make an aspheric IOL that is not blue-blocking.
> I don't want blue-blocking.
> If I get their regular in one eye and an aspheric dif brand in the
> other, will that make things look different out of the two eyes?
>
> thanks,
>
> Liz in Indy
> (more info soon to come)
> (EEEEEEEK I didn't realize they had to touch your eyeball to do an A-
> scan.)


 
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Otis
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      09-22-2009, 01:38 AM

Liz,

The previous video describes the choices you must make -- mono-vision,
compromise "intermediate" vision, or clear distant vision with "plus"
for close.


Here is a video of the actual surgery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xQo97WrL0&NR=1

Enjoy,


On Sep 21, 9:32*pm, Otis <otisbr...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Liz,
>
> Subject: *A video on cataract surgery -- and the issues you are
> considering.
>
> This is a long video. *The more you know -- the better your choice.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGoT3...eature=related
>
> My choice was the "clear distant" vision choice.
>
> On a scale of 1 to 10 -- I value my distant vision as a "10" -- and my
> use of a "plus" for near as a "1".
>
> As always, a "Trade-off".
>
> Did this video help you?
>
> Enjoy,
>
> On Sep 21, 9:09*pm, Liz <fraternobom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > So far I am finding the most effective way to talk to docs is just to
> > make an appointment to see them.

>
> > Two have looked at my worser cataract. *It has gotten to the point
> > where it has swelled a bit and thus is more involved to remove than it
> > would have been earlier.

>
> > One doc would (I think) inject a dye into the lens, I think to make it
> > easier to see so he could get it all out. *(I think that was why.)
> > The other said the eye might need a larger incision to get it all out.
> > That it might leak protein crud, which would cause glaucoma, so it
> > should be done soon. *That drops will be needed to prevent swelling of
> > the retina.
> > That I should use an Alcon IOL because the haptics are softer, so less
> > likely to get stuck on the edge of the cicular hole that will be cut
> > in the bag (or in other ways get stuck somewhere in the wrong place),
> > should this edge turn out not to cut cleanly because of the swelling.

>
> > That all people under 60 can expect post-capsular opacification.
> > (That seems a bit odd - there was disagreement on that one.)

>
> > Questions:
> > Does all this sound right?

>
> > Is the dye standard procedure?

>
> > Alcon does not make an aspheric IOL that is not blue-blocking.
> > I don't want blue-blocking.
> > If I get their regular in one eye and an aspheric dif brand in the
> > other, will that make things look different out of the two eyes?

>
> > thanks,

>
> > Liz in Indy
> > (more info soon to come)
> > (EEEEEEEK I didn't realize they had to touch your eyeball to do an A-
> > scan.)- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


 
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Liz
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      09-22-2009, 10:39 PM
> Here is a video of the actual surgery.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xQo97WrL0&NR=1


Oh God, Otis.... I started watching and I'm about to lose my lunch.
I can't deal with blood or guts or cutting or ... OH MY GOD. I want
to know what they do, but I'm gonna have to watch this in small
bits... the images are so just intense and overwhelming despite the
low res... I feel sick. I did see the dye. But had to stop before I
could see what it did.

*trying to recover*

Liz



 
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Neil Brooks
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      09-23-2009, 01:14 AM
On Sep 22, 4:39*pm, Liz <fraternobom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Here is a video of the actual surgery.

>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xQo97WrL0&NR=1

>
> Oh God, Otis.... I started watching and I'm about to lose my lunch.
> I can't deal with blood or guts or cutting or ... OH MY GOD. * I want
> to know what they do, but I'm gonna have to watch this in small
> bits... the images are so just intense and overwhelming despite the
> low res... I feel sick. * I did see the dye. *But had to stop before I
> could see what it did.
>
> *trying to recover*
>
> Liz


Yeah. He has an incredibly well documented track record of being
decidedly and astoundingly un-helpful, around here.

Did you meet with Price yet??
 
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Otis
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      09-23-2009, 03:16 AM

Dear Liz,

You asked about "injecting a dye".

The video shows how this is done.

Best,



On Sep 22, 6:39*pm, Liz <fraternobom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Here is a video of the actual surgery.

>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xQo97WrL0&NR=1

>
> Oh God, Otis.... I started watching and I'm about to lose my lunch.
> I can't deal with blood or guts or cutting or ... OH MY GOD. * I want
> to know what they do, but I'm gonna have to watch this in small
> bits... the images are so just intense and overwhelming despite the
> low res... I feel sick. * I did see the dye. *But had to stop before I
> could see what it did.
>
> *trying to recover*
>
> Liz


 
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Liz
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      09-23-2009, 08:40 AM
> > > Here is a video of the actual surgery.
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xQo97WrL0&NR=1

>
> > Oh God, Otis.... I started watching and I'm about to lose my lunch.
> > I can't deal with blood or guts or cutting

>
> Yeah. *He has an incredibly well documented track record of being
> decidedly and astoundingly un-helpful, around here.


Well, I'd be happy to hear any answers to my concerns above from
anyone.
This video probably has some of them, if I could steel myself.

Am seeing Price Oct. 8.

Liz
 
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Dan Abel
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      09-23-2009, 03:33 PM
In article
<cbd08588-8efc-456f-bf37-(E-Mail Removed)>,
Liz <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> > > > Here is a video of the actual surgery.

> >
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xQo97WrL0&NR=1

> >
> > > Oh God, Otis.... I started watching and I'm about to lose my lunch.
> > > I can't deal with blood or guts or cutting

> >
> > Yeah. *He has an incredibly well documented track record of being
> > decidedly and astoundingly un-helpful, around here.

>
> Well, I'd be happy to hear any answers to my concerns above from
> anyone.
> This video probably has some of them, if I could steel myself.


I would never watch such a video, and it would not help me. Just the
verbal descriptions of what happens is bad enough.

Which brings up another question and concern. My first cataract surgery
went really well. I was fine when I went home, and my wife and I went
out for lunch a couple of hours after the surgery. I was advised not to
go to work the next day, because it wasn't safe to drive due to residual
tranquilizer. That was fine, I was a government employee and had a
hundred days of sick leave on the books. I did end up working from home
the day after surgery, and fixed something that was broken, much to the
joy of the people who used the software. My surgeon retired before I
had the second. I liked the new surgeon, and had many office visits
over a period of several years. When it came time for surgery, I told
the anesthesia nurse, just like the first time, that I was nervous and
wanted lots of tranquilizer. He looked at me funny, and said the doctor
didn't believe in that. The surgery went poorly. I was unable to stay
still. The doctor kept telling me to stay still. It was involuntary
shaking. There was a lot of pain afterwards, all day and part of the
night (although I did get to sleep). The doctor had said that I could
go back to work the day after surgery. I took three days off, mostly
due to mental trauma. My vision was very poor the day after surgery. I
literally could not see the fingers on my hand, much less the chart on
the wall. It wasn't just the letters on the chart, I couldn't see the
white chart itself. This was due to pressure in the eye. The doctor
relieved the pressure, and my vision was good. Weeks later when I saw
the OD, my vision was perfect. Everything turned out well, but I would
much rather have had an easy surgery and an easy recovery that first
day, and stayed home and enjoyed myself the second day.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
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Neil Brooks
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      09-23-2009, 04:04 PM
On Sep 23, 9:33*am, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article
> <cbd08588-8efc-456f-bf37-cca22da75...@s6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
>
> *Liz <fraternobom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Here is a video of the actual surgery.

>
> > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xQo97WrL0&NR=1

>
> > > > Oh God, Otis.... I started watching and I'm about to lose my lunch.
> > > > I can't deal with blood or guts or cutting

>
> > > Yeah. *He has an incredibly well documented track record of being
> > > decidedly and astoundingly un-helpful, around here.

>
> > Well, I'd be happy to hear any answers to my concerns above from
> > anyone.
> > This video probably has some of them, if I could steel myself.

>
> I would never watch such a video, and it would not help me. *Just the
> verbal descriptions of what happens is bad enough.
>
> Which brings up another question and concern. *My first cataract surgery
> went really well. *I was fine when I went home, and my wife and I went
> out for lunch a couple of hours after the surgery. *I was advised not to
> go to work the next day, because it wasn't safe to drive due to residual
> tranquilizer. *That was fine, I was a government employee and had a
> hundred days of sick leave on the books. *I did end up working from home
> the day after surgery, and fixed something that was broken, much to the
> joy of the people who used the software. *My surgeon retired before I
> had the second. *I liked the new surgeon, and had many office visits
> over a period of several years. *When it came time for surgery, I told
> the anesthesia nurse, just like the first time, that I was nervous and
> wanted lots of tranquilizer. *He looked at me funny, and said the doctor
> didn't believe in that.



[snip]

One of the most difficult things in such processes is knowing what's
important to you (providing that it's reasonable), and then being
assertive and resolute.

I wouldn't have proceeded with the surgery until and unless a
reasonable request like yours was honored.

I'm glad your final result was good, Dan, but ... yuck.
 
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      09-23-2009, 04:05 PM
On Sep 22, 9:16*pm, Otis <otisbr...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Liz,
>
> You asked about "injecting a dye".
>
> The video shows how this is done.


That makes it all better, then (you moron).

Also, Liz, anybody who participates regularly on s.m.v. has a VERY
LONG history with Otis.

Nobody likes him.

He hurts people ... with bad advice.

Literally.
 
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