Is my opthamologist not good, proffesional enough? Says i don't have much choice for contact lenses.. (astigmatism)

Here's the story..

I've been wearing glasses for 5 years now, I'm 24 year old. I decided
it was time for a change to contact lenses, as glasses started to
really get on my nerves.. feel traped and constrained with them
allways on...

So I went all happy for a check up for lenses.. and then it started:
I went through all the tests and then the doctor started saying that
we don't have much of a choice because i have cylinders.. (I didn't
know unitl then that i have cylinders.. and no diptry power at all..
after searching the net i found out it is called astigmatism.. no
doctor ever told that to me)
So when they tried to find trial lenses we could try they didn't have
them, so they put in some lenses that were totaly blurry and
uncomfortable (probably semi hard, but with what purpose I don't
know.. since they werent my parameters in the first place.) I said
that I wanted soft lenses (monthly) so they ordered some lenses. So
after a coupple of days I went back again to try those lenses and as i
saw the parameters they were:

Left eye: -1.75 cyl, 180 ax, 8.9 base curve, 14.5 diameter
Right eye: -1.0 cyl, 180 ax, 8.9 base curve, 14.5 diameter
(Ciba Vision Focus Toric Monthly)

My new glasses prescription is:
Left eye: 0 sph, -1.5 cyl, 180 ax
Right eye: 0 sph, -0.5 cyl, 180 ax

But my earlier prescription for glasses (another doctor a year ago)
was:
Left eye: +0.25 sph, -2.0 cyl, 180 ax
Right eye: +0.25 sph, -0.75 cyl, 180 ax
(never tried it)

And even earlier prescription (the first one, and these glasses i
still wear today but left eye not so clear anymore):
Left eye: 0 sph, -1.0 cyl, 180 ax
Right eye: 0 sph, -0.5 cyl, 180 ax

So after i put in those contacts i saw even more blurry on the right
eye than without glasses. But on the left eye i saw a little bit
better but not as good as with glasses.
The doctor seemed as he didn't know why, so he simply said i come
again in a couple of days to put the same lenses in again.. (i don't
think it will be any different). He didn't look confident from the
beginning.. so i have a few questions here:

1) The doc said i have small eyes and will be difficult to put lense
in.. Why didn't he try with smaller lenses then? (i suspect because
the Optician he works with only sells Ciba vison.. and they don't come
in smaller size.. as i searched the net and checked all available
toric lenses.. i know there are smaller ones, and with cylinders
closer to my values.. I must say though that if this is true i'm
seriously dissapointed.. could it be?)

2) Is my level of astigmatism anything special? No plus or minus power
just cylinders.. or should that be even easier to correct than in
case of combination with myopia.. ?

3) Why does he say that he doesn't have much choice? Why doesn't he
try some other values? (cause ciba vision's Focus toric doesn't come
in them?)

4) Why try same lense again? He checked and saw that i don't see good
with it..

5) Why such a difference in prescriptions for glasses between the two
doctors?

Thank You VERY much for any of your anwsers !!!
I would appreciate any experience from anyone !

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(E-Mail Removed) (Vuchko) wrote:

> Here's the story..

[much text deleted]

> So after i put in those contacts i saw even more blurry on the right
> eye than without glasses. But on the left eye i saw a little bit
> better but not as good as with glasses.
> The doctor seemed as he didn't know why, so he simply said i come
> again in a couple of days to put the same lenses in again.. (i don't
> think it will be any different). He didn't look confident from the
> beginning..

That was your first clue that there was a problem:

>so i have a few questions here:
>
> 1) The doc said i have small eyes and will be difficult to put lense
> in.. Why didn't he try with smaller lenses then? (i suspect because
> the Optician he works with only sells Ciba vison.. and they don't come
> in smaller size.. as i searched the net and checked all available
> toric lenses.. i know there are smaller ones, and with cylinders
> closer to my values.. I must say though that if this is true i'm
> seriously dissapointed.. could it be?)

Toric lenses are available from dozens of manufacturers in quite a few
diameters, base curves, designs and materials. Many to choose from. But
perhaps not at this practitioner's office.


>
> 2) Is my level of astigmatism anything special? No plus or minus power
> just cylinders.. or should that be even easier to correct than in
> case of combination with myopia.. ?

Nothing special or unique about your prescription. Sometimes it is
easier to get optimum vision if there is myopia (or hyperopia) as well,
but your prescription is not a problem.
>
> 3) Why does he say that he doesn't have much choice? Why doesn't he
> try some other values? (cause ciba vision's Focus toric doesn't come
> in them?)

See first answer.
>
> 4) Why try same lense again? He checked and saw that i don't see good
> with it..
There is no reason to try again unless the first time did not allow at
least 20 minutes for the lenses to "settle down.". It IS appropriate to
measure the power of the contact lenses combined with the power of
lenses in the phoropter (machine that measures your prescription) to
arrive at the optimum combined power that determines the best lens
powers to order.

>
> 5) Why such a difference in prescriptions for glasses between the two
> doctors?

There really isn't that much difference.

>
> Thank You VERY much for any of your anwsers !!!
> I would appreciate any experience from anyone !

Hope that helped.

--LB, O.D.

"Vuchko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> Here's the story..
>
> I've been wearing glasses for 5 years now, I'm 24 year old. I decided
> it was time for a change to contact lenses, as glasses started to
> really get on my nerves.. feel traped and constrained with them
> allways on...
>
> So I went all happy for a check up for lenses.. and then it started:
> I went through all the tests and then the doctor started saying that
> we don't have much of a choice because i have cylinders.. (I didn't
> know unitl then that i have cylinders.. and no diptry power at all..
> after searching the net i found out it is called astigmatism.. no
> doctor ever told that to me)
> So when they tried to find trial lenses we could try they didn't have
> them, so they put in some lenses that were totaly blurry and
> uncomfortable (probably semi hard, but with what purpose I don't
> know.. since they werent my parameters in the first place.) I said
> that I wanted soft lenses (monthly) so they ordered some lenses. So
> after a coupple of days I went back again to try those lenses and as i
> saw the parameters they were:
>
> Left eye: -1.75 cyl, 180 ax, 8.9 base curve, 14.5 diameter
> Right eye: -1.0 cyl, 180 ax, 8.9 base curve, 14.5 diameter
> (Ciba Vision Focus Toric Monthly)
>
> My new glasses prescription is:
> Left eye: 0 sph, -1.5 cyl, 180 ax
> Right eye: 0 sph, -0.5 cyl, 180 ax
>
> But my earlier prescription for glasses (another doctor a year ago)
> was:
> Left eye: +0.25 sph, -2.0 cyl, 180 ax
> Right eye: +0.25 sph, -0.75 cyl, 180 ax
> (never tried it)
>
> And even earlier prescription (the first one, and these glasses i
> still wear today but left eye not so clear anymore):
> Left eye: 0 sph, -1.0 cyl, 180 ax
> Right eye: 0 sph, -0.5 cyl, 180 ax
>
> So after i put in those contacts i saw even more blurry on the right
> eye than without glasses. But on the left eye i saw a little bit
> better but not as good as with glasses.
> The doctor seemed as he didn't know why, so he simply said i come
> again in a couple of days to put the same lenses in again.. (i don't
> think it will be any different). He didn't look confident from the
> beginning.. so i have a few questions here:
>
> 1) The doc said i have small eyes and will be difficult to put lense
> in.. Why didn't he try with smaller lenses then? (i suspect because
> the Optician he works with only sells Ciba vison.. and they don't come
> in smaller size.. as i searched the net and checked all available
> toric lenses.. i know there are smaller ones, and with cylinders
> closer to my values.. I must say though that if this is true i'm
> seriously dissapointed.. could it be?)
>
> 2) Is my level of astigmatism anything special? No plus or minus power
> just cylinders.. or should that be even easier to correct than in
> case of combination with myopia.. ?
>
> 3) Why does he say that he doesn't have much choice? Why doesn't he
> try some other values? (cause ciba vision's Focus toric doesn't come
> in them?)
>
> 4) Why try same lense again? He checked and saw that i don't see good
> with it..
>
> 5) Why such a difference in prescriptions for glasses between the two
> doctors?
>
> Thank You VERY much for any of your anwsers !!!
> I would appreciate any experience from anyone !

Are you in the USA? If so, you probably should not be seeing an
ophthalmologist to get glasses unless you have some eye disease or eye
injury. Go to an optometrist (OD) to get an eye exam. You can get your
lenses from the OD (usually) or an optician.

I absolutely agree. I had been going to my ophthalmologist for years
for glasses prescriptions and finally when I asked about contact
lenses, he was very ill-equipped to fit me - becuase I didn't feel he
was interested and secondly, he didn't have many lenses in his office.
My local OD has a slew of them and gave me the right fit after 2 tries.
Now, I realize I didn't need to be going to him all this time for my
prescriptions as well. I apologize to all the OD's out there.

Vuchko wrote:
> Here's the story..
>
> I've been wearing glasses for 5 years now, I'm 24 year old. I decided
> it was time for a change to contact lenses, as glasses started to
> really get on my nerves.. feel traped and constrained with them
> allways on...
>

You show yourself to be a stupid if you believe that contacts are
better than glasses.

But you are not alone.

Many people are like you.

They believe the bullshit doctors tell them and go for glasses then for
contacts then for lasik then regret.

Don't be such a stupid.

contacts are sometimes better. Obviously, the field of vision cannot
be surpassed - and presonally, mi vision is crisper and clearer.
LASIK, however, is a whole other story .

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> contacts are sometimes better. Obviously, the field of vision cannot
> be surpassed - and presonally, mi vision is crisper and clearer.
> LASIK, however, is a whole other story .

It is not a whole other story.

It is the same stupid story.

Instead of teaching you how to treat your imperfect sight so that it
can become again NORMAL or PERFECT, they sell you harmful devices which
induce addiction, and spoil not only your sight and your wallet, but
your very life.

Mark A wrote:
> "Vuchko" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > Here's the story..
> >
> > I've been wearing glasses for 5 years now, I'm 24 year old. I
decided
> > it was time for a change to contact lenses, as glasses started to
> > really get on my nerves.. feel traped and constrained with them
> > allways on...
> >
> > So I went all happy for a check up for lenses.. and then it
started:
> > I went through all the tests and then the doctor started saying
that
> > we don't have much of a choice because i have cylinders.. (I didn't
> > know unitl then that i have cylinders.. and no diptry power at
all..
> > after searching the net i found out it is called astigmatism.. no
> > doctor ever told that to me)
> > So when they tried to find trial lenses we could try they didn't
have
> > them, so they put in some lenses that were totaly blurry and
> > uncomfortable (probably semi hard, but with what purpose I don't
> > know.. since they werent my parameters in the first place.) I said
> > that I wanted soft lenses (monthly) so they ordered some lenses. So
> > after a coupple of days I went back again to try those lenses and
as i
> > saw the parameters they were:
> >
> > Left eye: -1.75 cyl, 180 ax, 8.9 base curve, 14.5 diameter
> > Right eye: -1.0 cyl, 180 ax, 8.9 base curve, 14.5 diameter
> > (Ciba Vision Focus Toric Monthly)
> >
> > My new glasses prescription is:
> > Left eye: 0 sph, -1.5 cyl, 180 ax
> > Right eye: 0 sph, -0.5 cyl, 180 ax
> >
> > But my earlier prescription for glasses (another doctor a year ago)
> > was:
> > Left eye: +0.25 sph, -2.0 cyl, 180 ax
> > Right eye: +0.25 sph, -0.75 cyl, 180 ax
> > (never tried it)
> >
> > And even earlier prescription (the first one, and these glasses i
> > still wear today but left eye not so clear anymore):
> > Left eye: 0 sph, -1.0 cyl, 180 ax
> > Right eye: 0 sph, -0.5 cyl, 180 ax
> >
> > So after i put in those contacts i saw even more blurry on the
right
> > eye than without glasses. But on the left eye i saw a little bit
> > better but not as good as with glasses.
> > The doctor seemed as he didn't know why, so he simply said i come
> > again in a couple of days to put the same lenses in again.. (i
don't
> > think it will be any different). He didn't look confident from the
> > beginning.. so i have a few questions here:
> >
> > 1) The doc said i have small eyes and will be difficult to put
lense
> > in.. Why didn't he try with smaller lenses then? (i suspect because
> > the Optician he works with only sells Ciba vison.. and they don't
come
> > in smaller size.. as i searched the net and checked all available
> > toric lenses.. i know there are smaller ones, and with cylinders
> > closer to my values.. I must say though that if this is true i'm
> > seriously dissapointed.. could it be?)
> >
> > 2) Is my level of astigmatism anything special? No plus or minus
power
> > just cylinders.. or should that be even easier to correct than in
> > case of combination with myopia.. ?
> >
> > 3) Why does he say that he doesn't have much choice? Why doesn't he
> > try some other values? (cause ciba vision's Focus toric doesn't
come
> > in them?)
> >
> > 4) Why try same lense again? He checked and saw that i don't see
good
> > with it..
> >
> > 5) Why such a difference in prescriptions for glasses between the
two
> > doctors?
> >
> > Thank You VERY much for any of your anwsers !!!
> > I would appreciate any experience from anyone !
>
> Are you in the USA? If so, you probably should not be seeing an
> ophthalmologist to get glasses unless you have some eye disease or
eye
> injury. Go to an optometrist (OD) to get an eye exam. You can get
your
> lenses from the OD (usually) or an optician.