myopia and eye strain at near

Hi

I can tell that my eyes have got more myopic since my last
prescription. So until I get a new prescription I think it's a bit
like having a slight plus lens on (probably about 0.5D). However, my
eyes are feeling increasingly strained when using the computer
(admittedly I do a lot).

So my question is, why do I need more "minus" in order to see close up
without my eyes getting tired?

I am 34. This also happened the last time I needed a bit more "minus".
Both eyes changed about the same amount and there was no increase in
astigmatism.

Thanks for any opinions
Richard

On Sep 24, 9:25 am, a06...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi
>
> I can tell that my eyes have got more myopic since my last
> prescription. So until I get a new prescription I think it's a bit
> like having a slight plus lens on (probably about 0.5D). However, my
> eyes are feeling increasingly strained when using the computer
> (admittedly I do a lot).
>
> So my question is, why do I need more "minus" in order to see close up
> without my eyes getting tired?
>
> I am 34. This also happened the last time I needed a bit more "minus".
> Both eyes changed about the same amount and there was no increase in
> astigmatism.
>
> Thanks for any opinions
> Richard

It sounds like a convergence problem. Less minus = less accommodation
= less convergence.

It sounds like exactly what he himself has written in the title;

Strain.

Sorry. Rishi Giovanni Gatti (Zetsu), Lena102938, and Otis Brown are
trolls who haunt s.m.v.

Rishi has published, and is trying to sell worthless books.

Otis is pathologically dishonest and actually hurts people.
Following his advice can induce double vision in those
not working closely with an eye doctor.

Lena102938 uses anti-eye doctor rhetoric as a substitute for ANY
actual information. It seems she now has to wear glasses and has
developed a pathological (and ILLOGICAL) resentment toward the
industry that "foisted these glasses upon her."

You'd do well to ignore them and wait for responses from the
caring, compassionate eye doctors who DO also participate in this site.

On 24 Sep, 16:32, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...@leukoma.com> wrote:

> It sounds like a convergence problem. Less minus = less accommodation
> = less convergence.

Thanks for this. I do get told to do the convergence exercises so that
could well explain it. I think I will practise doing them more before
I get an eye test.

On Sep 24, 9:32 am, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...@leukoma.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 9:25 am, a06...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi
>
> > I can tell that my eyes have got more myopic since my last
> > prescription. So until I get a new prescription I think it's a bit
> > like having a slight plus lens on (probably about 0.5D). However, my
> > eyes are feeling increasingly strained when using the computer
> > (admittedly I do a lot).
>
> > So my question is, why do I need more "minus" in order to see close up
> > without my eyes getting tired?
>
> > I am 34. This also happened the last time I needed a bit more "minus".
> > Both eyes changed about the same amount and there was no increase in
> > astigmatism.
>
> > Thanks for any opinions
> > Richard
>
> It sounds like a convergence problem. Less minus = less accommodation
> = less convergence.

I agree here .
But it is the call to eye exercise

Is ODs have some logical harmony inside themselves what is going on
in myopia-presbyopia - hypermetropia progression?
It looks like all of you (not all, actually, smart ones ) have some
experience that contradicts
the things that are in regulations.you were taught.
you simply do not want to accept the truth, that you can
feel because the truth disturbs your own perception of the things,
things that you were taught..

But sometimes,
Your answers are guided by that experience, it is nice.

Dear Lena,

Subject: The mind-set of the majority-opinion ODs.

If the ODs acknowledged that they simply give the
public what it "wants" (in five minutes) -- there would
be no argument or discussion.

That DEFINES the nature of optometry.

However they have developed a belief-system -- that
is simply not scientific.

So they state their "mantra" (minus lens WONDERFUL,
all who question are WRONG) endlessly.

But, as they point out, the public (in its ignorance) is indeed
hostile to plus-prevention.

It takes good science to finally recognize the deeper
(as scientific truth) of this situation.

Prevention (in the threshold) is not easy -- but is
is possible.

Just my second-opinion,

Otis


On Sep 28, 1:05 pm, lena102938 <db00q...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 9:32 am, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...@leukoma.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 24, 9:25 am, a06...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Hi
>
> > > I can tell that my eyes have got more myopic since my last
> > > prescription. So until I get a new prescription I think it's a bit
> > > like having a slight plus lens on (probably about 0.5D). However, my
> > > eyes are feeling increasingly strained when using the computer
> > > (admittedly I do a lot).
>
> > > So my question is, why do I need more "minus" in order to see close up
> > > without my eyes getting tired?
>
> > > I am 34. This also happened the last time I needed a bit more "minus".
> > > Both eyes changed about the same amount and there was no increase in
> > > astigmatism.
>
> > > Thanks for any opinions
> > > Richard
>
> > It sounds like a convergence problem. Less minus = less accommodation
> > = less convergence.
>
> I agree here .
> But it is the call to eye exercise
>
> Is ODs have some logical harmony inside themselves what is going on
> in myopia-presbyopia - hypermetropia progression?
> It looks like all of you (not all, actually, smart ones ) have some
> experience that contradicts
> the things that are in regulations.you were taught.
> you simply do not want to accept the truth, that you can
> feel because the truth disturbs your own perception of the things,
> things that you were taught..
>
> But sometimes,
> Your answers are guided by that experience, it is nice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, Mike, it took a considerable act of "faith" for
Captain Cook to introduce anti-scurvy efforts for
his crew.

And I am certain that some of the crew were
calling him a F. I. for instituting those life-saving
efforts. (Not to his face, of course.)

Further his successful efforts could only be recognized
against the back-drop of 30 percent dead on long
voyages.

Yes, soving difficult problems does take a lot of "faith" -- no
doubt about it. But it is in science that this "faith" must rest.

But you must get your facts right (about the dynamic
behavior in the first place) to do it "right".

Just my second-opinion,

Otis



On Sep 28, 3:10 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote
>
> > Prevention (in the threshold) is not easy -- but is
> > is possible.
>
> Faith is the evidence of things not seen.
>
> -MT

On Sep 24, 10:25 am, a06...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> So my question is, why do I need more "minus" in order to see close up
> without my eyes getting tired?
>

hello. i am not clear about a part of your story. when you get the
extra minus, as you did previously when your Rx changed, did it make
you feel as though you were straining less when you are doing near
activities? How nearsighted are you? How comfortable is it when you
work at your computer with your glasses off entirely?

In article <(E-Mail Removed) om>,
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> On Sep 24, 10:25 am, a06...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > So my question is, why do I need more "minus" in order to see close up
> > without my eyes getting tired?
> >
>
> hello. i am not clear about a part of your story. when you get the
> extra minus, as you did previously when your Rx changed, did it make
> you feel as though you were straining less when you are doing near
> activities? How nearsighted are you? How comfortable is it when you
> work at your computer with your glasses off entirely?

Doesn't make sense to me, either, although it happened to me also, and
that made more sense. As my eyes got more myopic, I needed more and
more minus to read "close", where "close" means a comfortable reading
distance. My farthest distance I could see clearly without correction
was about 1 1/4 inches. Of course, I needed even more minus to see far.