This optician has -2.75 diopters of lenticular astigmastim and sees 20/40 with glasses

At target they had a small area where eye exams are given. I had a
discussion with the optician about several points. She says I know more
about optometry than she does! I asked if the optometrist can give a
psycoplegic refraction and she said yes. I then mentioned I want a
strong cycoplegia agent, maybe even atropine if the optometrist says
its suitable. She said the cycoplegia lasts about 3 hours and I told
her ah thats a weak one and results in incomplete cycoplegic and that a
decent one will be lasting 8-12 hours. She says I dont really know, ask
the optometrist. I will be calling him soon to discuss this and
resolving my pseudomyopia.

By the way she was wearing glasses which seemed to be near plano so I
asked what pescription and she says "I have astigmastim only, no
myopia" I asked her how well she sees without them and she says crappy,
the letters are disorted and smeared.(hey a bad lasik outcome could
give an effect like this to varying degrees)I asked her how well she
sees with glasses and she says 20/40 but my eyes have gotten a bit
worse, I am gonna try new glases and hopefully achieve a little better.
(20/30?)

I got to try her glasses and they are progressives too, when I look
towards the bottom things appear more blurry but magnified. I am
getting -2.75 induced astigmastim but while things appeared smeared and
disorted(squared became mild verticle rectangles!) things overall were
a bit less blurry. I told her im getting the spherical equivalent with
myopia corrected on one axix. This makes me -4.5 and +2.75 which can
also be written as -1.75 and -2.75
which would blur as much as -3.13(round to -3.25) so I definately
notice less blur but the quality of vision sucks! Id rather be a -4.5
with no astigmastim instead! At least things will appear normal and not
smeared or disorted, just blurry due to defocus. Things from near would
be clear reciprocal to my myopia so -4.5 is clear from 1/4.5 meters. -3
would be clear from 1/3 meter. Now I understand why people with
(equal)more than -1 to 1.5 diopters of astigmastim wear glasses full
time! Even though this is only equal to -.5 to -.75 spherical
equivalent myopic blur for 20/25 to 20/30 instead of 20/20, the vision
quality just sucks! The trouble isnt really so much as seeing letters
and objects, its the smeared, disorted way they see letters and
everything. Frankly even though a -1.5 myope may see 20/60, hes more
functional without correction than a -1.5 astigmatic seeing 20/30!

Reguarding lasik, now I am getting the idea why some people complain of
blur even though they end up with vision as good as 20/20. They got
induced(or incomplete removal)of astigmastim, sometimes of the
irregular kind which is a bad thing since its much harder to properly
correct. Get enough induced irregular astigmastim and youll lose lines
of vision and also have poor quality of vision! All lasik induces high
order aberrations which disort things in strange ways, probably more
similar to astigmastim than simple defocus.

What is the point of your post?

Are you trying to feed your ego?

> She says I know more
> about optometry than she does!

By the way, its "cycloplegic", not "psycoplegic"

> I asked if the optometrist can give a
> psycoplegic refraction and she said yes. I then mentioned I want a

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Several snips in a lot of narcistic rimram.

I asked if the optometrist can give a
> psycoplegic refraction and she said yes.

Is this done with birds?


> Reguarding lasik, now I am getting the idea why some people complain of
> blur even though they end up with vision as good as 20/20. They got
> induced(or incomplete removal)of astigmastim, sometimes of the
> irregular kind which is a bad thing since its much harder to properly
> correct. Get enough induced irregular astigmastim and youll lose lines
> of vision and also have poor quality of vision!

Old already known facts, but this time, you beeing a laymen mentioned
something with value to other laymen.

--
Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

Neither pro, nor anti, LASIK,LASEK,PRK etc......

This post is an interesting read. as for spelling I suck at it and also
there phonetic ways to spell words. psy closely substitutes c and ph
for f. Well this optician did say maybe I should be an optometrist
as for lasik youd be supprised how many people think 20/20 means
perfect vision, well it sometimes does but lasik 20/20 isnt always that
great quality wise.

Well stated Jan. I am an optometrist and can't follow the clap-trap.

For example, how does this person have lenticular astigmatism? It is
usually corneal, especially around 3D of it.

What does wearing someone elses glasses have to understanding LAsik?
Most people I speak to think it is great, even the ones with reduced
acuity.

Give us a break space ace, get a brain and get a life.

dr grant

Do you want me to explain lenticular astigmastim? Id hope you know
about this that astigmastim can be in the lense as well.


Wearing glasses that disort things mimics the disortion some people see
from a bad lasik experience. Anyone who is happy with seeing worse
after lasik must reeeeeeeeeeally hate glasses even more than he likes
seeing good.

I have a brain and probably more of a life than you. Do you insult
everyone? At least I have manners and this will get me far in life.