Plus lens therapy

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by Robin Parsons, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. Any eye, human or primate will tend to adapt to whatever lens is
    placed before it.It does not necessarily develop a refractive error.
    When the lens is removed the vision of the animal will soon return to
    normal.

    According to Otis Brown a minus lens placed before a normal sighted
    individual will produce myopia. Admittedly if the lens is worn for a
    few days and then removed there will be a slight difficulty in seeing
    perfectly but conditions will soon return to normal.

    It is not true that all myopic eyes become more myopic as the years go
    by. My wife has been myopic since chilhood and now in her sixties has
    a -l prescription which has varied little throughout her life. The
    same applies to my sight. I have turned 80 and my prescription is less
    than it was when I was aged fourteen. Any optometrist of experience
    will have had similar patients.

    The plus lens therapy advocated by Otis Brown neither prevents the
    development of myopia nor does it improve it. He seems to suggest the
    fitting of plus lenses to children to prevent myopia whether or not
    they have shown any signs of its appearance. Perhaps we should all be
    fitted with lightning conductors to save us from a strike.

    The offered anecdotal proof that one or two pilots have benefited from wearing
    plus lenses is hardly evidence. Perhaps we should have the opinions of
    the optometrists who treated them.
     
    Robin Parsons, Sep 29, 2004
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  2. Robin Parsons

    Otis Brown Guest

    Dear John,

    Subject: Plus lens PREVENTION.

    I maintain a FREE site on plus lens PREVENTION (not therapy),
    and not medical.

    www.myopiafree.com

    The concept was developed by Dr. Jacob Raphaelson, and
    is continued by Dr. Steve Leung;

    www.chinamyopia.org

    Could you describe who is selling this "kit". I am
    curious.

    Some additional commentary:


    John> I was wondering if anyone had tried plus lens therapy to correct their
    vision.

    Otis> Provided this preventive method is started
    before the minus lens is used, the a degree
    of success is possible.


    John> ... and if it had worked for them or not.

    Otis> Provided that the person works very hard at
    it (at the 20/60 level) then clearing to better
    than the required Snellen-DMV is a reasonable
    possibility. But it is like a diet. Paultry efforts
    produce paultry results.


    John> I recently found a company who
    sells kits for plus lens therapy and wanted to hear if it was worth buying
    or not.

    Otis> Actually, most of the information is free, and
    you can obtain the proper range of plus lenses in
    you corner drug store.

    Otis> You can expect an explosive response from the
    ODs on this site to these remarks. Go figure.

    Best,

    Otis
    Engineer




    Thanks,

    John
     
    Otis Brown, Sep 30, 2004
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  3. Robin Parsons

    Vile Guest

    I am sure John from his 1999 message has helped his vision and moved
    on by now. That's a weird bug when you post the same topic it
    attaches to any old posts that have the same subject. Anyhow...plus
    lens therapy has moved my vision to a more even state this month.
    Only a inch difference now that's its off by this month instead of 2
    where I started from. Only 18 years to go til I get 20/20 avg'ing
    about 1 inch of vision back a month more or less, but I have nothing
    better to do right now so its ok.

    (Otis Brown) wrote in message news:<>...
    > Dear John,
    >
    > Subject: Plus lens PREVENTION.
    >
    > I maintain a FREE site on plus lens PREVENTION (not therapy),
    > and not medical.
    >
    > www.myopiafree.com
    >
    > The concept was developed by Dr. Jacob Raphaelson, and
    > is continued by Dr. Steve Leung;
    >
    > www.chinamyopia.org
    >
    > Could you describe who is selling this "kit". I am
    > curious.
    >
    > Some additional commentary:
    >
    >
    > John> I was wondering if anyone had tried plus lens therapy to correct their
    > vision.
    >
    > Otis> Provided this preventive method is started
    > before the minus lens is used, the a degree
    > of success is possible.
    >
    >
    > John> ... and if it had worked for them or not.
    >
    > Otis> Provided that the person works very hard at
    > it (at the 20/60 level) then clearing to better
    > than the required Snellen-DMV is a reasonable
    > possibility. But it is like a diet. Paultry efforts
    > produce paultry results.
    >
    >
    > John> I recently found a company who
    > sells kits for plus lens therapy and wanted to hear if it was worth buying
    > or not.
    >
    > Otis> Actually, most of the information is free, and
    > you can obtain the proper range of plus lenses in
    > you corner drug store.
    >
    > Otis> You can expect an explosive response from the
    > ODs on this site to these remarks. Go figure.
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Otis
    > Engineer
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > John
     
    Vile, Sep 30, 2004
    #3
  4. > where I started from. Only 18 years to go til I get 20/20 avg'ing
    > about 1 inch of vision back a month more or less, but I have nothing
    > better to do right now so its ok.


    I don't understand your logic, strange indeed.

    But why don't you turn to the real thing?
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Sep 30, 2004
    #4
  5. Robin Parsons

    Vile Guest

    Ok I'll answer this one time for you w/o telling you to **** off, or
    blow me or whatever insult it would take to get you to shut up since
    you won't anyway.

    If you truly support Bates you should post like you were answering
    like Bates himself if you know the material well enough. You need to
    contribute something that someone idling pasting by this group would
    pause and say, "hey that's interesting I would like to know more." I
    do like Bates methods such as palming and shifting and swinging,
    sunning. But for an avg active adult such as myself its hard to
    follow everything in the book exactly on a regular basis. Maybe give
    tips to people on how to incorporate the methods in their daily lives.
    Maybe you have improved on some Bates theories in your routine. I am
    not sure what impulses you to post here as much as you do since I
    don't think anybody likes you and would like to even have you arrested
    for whatever reason. But maybe if you figure out a way to fit in
    better who knows?

    Tell you what...give me three tips to better improve my vision (Bates
    way) for all to see and maybe just maybe you might get some support on
    this group if not by regular posters here, but in the hopes some
    potential posters looking on that might get interested in what you
    have to say for once.


    (Rishi Giovanni Gatti) wrote in message news:<>...
    > > where I started from. Only 18 years to go til I get 20/20 avg'ing
    > > about 1 inch of vision back a month more or less, but I have nothing
    > > better to do right now so its ok.

    >
    > I don't understand your logic, strange indeed.
    >
    > But why don't you turn to the real thing?
     
    Vile, Oct 1, 2004
    #5
  6. Robin Parsons

    Otis Brown Guest

    Dear Vile,

    Thanks for the commentary -- I did not see the 1999 year,
    and assumed a recent post.

    However the advice is still good. In fact I think most
    people will turn-down the use of the plus.

    The reason I "arm-twisted" my sister's children was
    because of Dr. Raphaelson's statements to me
    about the plus -- and the public's REJECTION
    of the plus at the 20/50 level.

    The -1/2 diopter per year was not a published
    figure when I started "pushing" them to wear the
    plus.

    In a sense it was "easy", because they just
    checked their eye-chart, and when they saw
    there vision was going below the 20/40 to
    20/50 line -- they just worked very hard
    at it, and always cleared. It certainly beats
    the alternative. But that is EXACTLY what
    I meant when I said that the person must
    have enough force-of-character and resolve
    to make the engineering-scientific method
    work effectively.

    I have yet to figure out how any of the
    preventive work could EVER be prescribed,
    even though the experimental data is
    in excellent order to support the
    preventive method and concept.

    I will post some commentary on others
    using the plus for prevention.

    I would have hoped that BOTH of us
    had received this information and
    advice BEFORE either one of us had
    received that first minus. But I
    do "dream" of a better future -- but
    that is why these ODs are "on my case".

    If fact, if they were not so "hard over" they
    might see a future for themselves to be
    HELPFUL in this preventive method.
    But as it stands now, we have no choice
    but to do the best we can under
    very adverse circumstances indeed.

    Best,

    Otis
    Engineer




    (Vile) wrote in message


    > I am sure John from his 1999 message has helped his vision and moved
    > on by now. That's a weird bug when you post the same topic it
    > attaches to any old posts that have the same subject. Anyhow...plus
    > lens therapy has moved my vision to a more even state this month.
    > Only a inch difference now that's its off by this month instead of 2
    > where I started from. Only 18 years to go til I get 20/20 avg'ing
    > about 1 inch of vision back a month more or less, but I have nothing
    > better to do right now so its ok.
     
    Otis Brown, Oct 1, 2004
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