Posterior Vitreous Detachment "prevention"?

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by miko, Jul 18, 2007.

  1. miko

    miko Guest

    i just got diagnosed with Posterior Vitreous Detachment. it started
    EXACTLY last night as i was vacuuming. i started seeing rather large
    ans crisp strands in my right eye. anyway the opthal.. said it s
    Posterior Vitreous Detachment.

    reading up on it, it says there's a change in the gel as one gets
    older.

    my question is, is there any preventitive measure i can take,,,,maybe
    something that will keep the vitrious from making this "change".
    something to keep it in it's "youthful" state?

    thanks
     
    miko, Jul 18, 2007
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  2. miko

    DoctorRick Guest

    On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:59:04 -0700, miko <> wrote:
    >my question is, is there any preventitive measure i can take,,,,maybe
    >something that will keep the vitrious from making this "change".
    >something to keep it in it's "youthful" state?
    >
    >thanks


    No
     
    DoctorRick, Jul 19, 2007
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  3. miko

    miko Guest

    i've read all the info about pvd. i went to a doctor and his exam
    revealed that is what i have. so my question are more for edification
    than anything else.

    i have had these floaters for three days and they change each day. the
    first day was horrific as there appeared something akin to a drop of
    black ink in still water. since then they have settled to something
    more like black lint hair, something like what you see on the film an
    old dusty movie. is this what people are refering to as "cobwebs"?

    i notice that if i focus on a fixed point, the floaters disappear in
    about one second. they tend to appear when i shift my eyes in any
    normal way. so during the course of a day they will constantly appear
    and disappear as my eyes function normally. also, IF I TURN MY HEAD
    while focusing on a point, the floaters will disappear that way as
    well. what is the reason for this?

    and why, over the course of time, do they "settle" out of view?

    and what is "showering" of floaters? apparantly, this is a bad sign.
     
    miko, Jul 19, 2007
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  4. miko

    miko Guest

    i've read all the info about pvd. i went to a doctor and his exam
    revealed that is what i have. so my question are more for edification
    than anything else.

    i have had these floaters for three days and they change each day. the
    first day was horrific as there appeared something akin to a drop of
    black ink in still water. since then they have settled to something
    more like black lint hair, something like what you see on the film an
    old dusty movie. is this what people are refering to as "cobwebs"?

    i notice that if i focus on a fixed point, the floaters disappear in
    about one second. they tend to appear when i shift my eyes in any
    normal way. so during the course of a day they will constantly appear
    and disappear as my eyes function normally. also, IF I TURN MY HEAD
    while focusing on a point, the floaters will disappear that way as
    well. what is the reason for this?

    and why, over the course of time, do they "settle" out of view?

    and what is "showering" of floaters? apparantly, this is a bad sign
     
    miko, Jul 19, 2007
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  5. miko

    Ms.Brainy Guest

    On Jul 19, 10:02 am, miko <> wrote:
    > i've read all the info about pvd. i went to a doctor and his exam
    > revealed that is what i have. so my question are more for edification
    > than anything else.
    >


    What, Otis has not yet offered the plus lens for prevention? And
    Quasimodo-Bates-Eulengerg has not come up yet with anti-strain
    relaxation + water (contribution of the long forgotten Norwigian
    Kaze)? And what about carrots?
     
    Ms.Brainy, Jul 20, 2007
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  6. miko

    Guest

    On Jul 19, 1:04 pm, miko <> wrote:
    > and what is "showering" of floaters? apparantly, this is a bad sign


    if you have an abrupt change in the number or density of floaters it
    could indicate release of blood and/or pigment into the vitreous.
    this could happen if you have an acute retinal detachment. the
    possibility of retinal detachment (RD) is the reason why "showering"
    is a bad sign.

    if you have gone to your eye doctor when you first noticed your
    floaters (as it appears you have), and he/she has dilated you and
    examined your retina and told you that you have posterior vitreal
    detachment (PVD) and not RD, then all is well. you did exactly what
    you need to do by eliminating the possibility of RD.

    sometimes floaters can position themselves in a very annoying region
    of the vitreous where they are quite noticeable. a bad place to have
    a floater is near the macula and in the outermost portion of the
    vitreous very close to the retina. such floaters cast a very distinct
    shadow on the retina which is the reason why you even see them at all.

    Not to worry. they will very likely move away plus you will adjust to
    them.
     
    , Jul 20, 2007
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  7. miko

    miko Guest

    does any activity aggravate a situation? intense exercise?,,,heavy
    lifting?,,,etc etc.


    >
    > Not to worry. they will very likely move away plus you will adjust to
    > them.
     
    miko, Jul 20, 2007
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  8. miko

    Guest

    On Jul 19, 10:04 pm, miko <> wrote:
    > does any activity aggravate a situation? intense exercise?,,,heavy
    > lifting?,,,etc etc.
    >


    Sometimes it seems that way--I think it's just coincidental. Both of
    my VDs occurred after I was running on a treadmill and working out at
    the gym. But the ophthalmologist didn't think that's what "caused" it,
    and said not to worry. Said it was a normal event due to aging. If
    there's bleeding involved, though, that's another story--your doctor
    would tell you what activities to avoid and for how long.

    C66
     
    , Jul 20, 2007
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  9. miko

    Guest

    On Jul 20, 12:04 am, miko <> wrote:
    > does any activity aggravate a situation? intense exercise?,,,heavy
    > lifting?,,,etc etc.
    >
    >
    >
    > > Not to worry. they will very likely move away plus you will adjust to
    > > them.


    relax! think of something else.
     
    , Jul 20, 2007
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  10. On Jul 20, 11:39 am, wrote:
    > On Jul 20, 12:04 am, miko <> wrote:
    >
    > > does any activity aggravate a situation? intense exercise?,,,heavy
    > > lifting?,,,etc etc.

    >
    > > > Not to worry. they will very likely move away plus you will adjust to
    > > > them.

    >
    > relax! think of something else.


    Yes, this is the best advice possible.
     
    Edwardo Alphonse Elric, Jul 20, 2007
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  11. miko

    CatmanX Guest

    There is a treatment for PVD. It is permanent and effective. It is
    called the Colt 45 method. No more PVD, no more problems full stop.

    Short of this, there is nothing you can do. Stop whining, get used to
    it, it ain't going away.
     
    CatmanX, Jul 22, 2007
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  12. miko

    CatmanX Guest

    I'd love to. Come around any time and I'll show you in person.
     
    CatmanX, Jul 24, 2007
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  13. miko

    Neil Brooks Guest

    On Jul 24, 7:31 pm, wrote:
    > CatmanX <> wrote:
    > >I'd love to. Come around any time and I'll show you in person.

    >
    > Sounds like you're walking dead, anyway.



    You need a little context here. Fewer and fewer eye doctors (you
    know: the ones who actually CAN help people with issues) post here.

    They STOP posting here because of Otis Brown, and his occasional
    retinue (absolutely , in all of his
    identities, is the current version).

    Any doctor who comes here--for no money--and helps people as they do
    deserves a break. If you'd dealt with Otis, et al, for YEARS ... as
    so many of us have ... you'd understand a whole lot better than I'm
    guessing you do.

    He's the unwanted house guest that hurts your friends and family, but
    will never leave.
     
    Neil Brooks, Jul 25, 2007
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  14. miko

    CatmanX Guest


    > Sounds like you're walking dead, anyway.


    No, walking sane. You need to get a life cactus head, instead of
    getting upset by my words, do something worthwhile yourself. AsPBL
    would be a good start..
     
    CatmanX, Jul 25, 2007
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  15. These people are evermore complaining about Otis and what a liar/
    psycho/evil old man he is, but the truth is it is not serving anything
    more than their personal self ego. Perhaps it makes them feel 'big'
    when they are able to ridicule Otis without fear of a successful
    contradiction. Time and time again I have been trying to show them
    that if they were to simply stop arguing, take a look around and see
    that their bickering is really very childish and unnecessary, that
    perhaps if they were to only ignore those trolls who so highly bother
    them, that and only in that case can productive discussion ever
    emerge. Yet they continue to squabble amongst themselves like the
    little nursery children, and they fail to see that it is not Otis, but
    themselves who are causing the intelligent and learned men among us to
    leave in annoyance and impatience. It is true that Otis irritates a
    number of participants in this newsgroup, but this is no excuse for
    the sodden state in which this community has been left. One day,
    maybe, I hope that they will see that all they have done was in vain,
    and by allowing one man, one man alone, to destroy their community
    with such ease, they have proven themselves among the weak minded. I
    have shown them the path to escape this dangerous road that will lead
    to the certain doom of sci.med.vision. In spite of this, they continue
    to reply to Otis' posts, thus in a self defeating attempt they lend
    him a certain merit of credibility which they had originally sought to
    destroy. It is pitiable; what kind of a ridiculous game they do play
    at?
     
    Edwardo Alphonse Elric, Jul 27, 2007
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  16. These people are evermore complaining about Otis and what a liar/
    psycho/evil old man he is, but the truth is it is not serving anything
    more than their personal self ego. Perhaps it makes them feel 'big'
    when they are able to ridicule Otis without fear of a successful
    contradiction. Time and time again I have been trying to show them
    that if they were to simply stop arguing, take a look around and see
    that their bickering is really very childish and unnecessary, that
    perhaps if they were to only ignore those trolls who so highly bother
    them, that and only in that case can productive discussion ever
    emerge. Yet they continue to squabble amongst themselves like the
    little nursery children, and they fail in their self denial to see
    that it is not Otis, but themselves who are causing the intelligent
    and learned men among us to leave in annoyance and impatience. It is
    true that Otis irritates a number of participants in this newsgroup,
    but this is no excuse for the sodden state in which this community has
    been left. One day, maybe, I hope that they will see that all they
    have done was in vain, and by allowing one man, one man alone, to
    destroy their community with such ease, they have proven themselves
    among the weak and feeble minded. I have shown them the path to escape
    this dangerous road that will lead to the certain doom of
    sci.med.vision. In spite of this, they continue to reply to Otis'
    posts, thus in a self defeating attempt they lend him a certain merit
    of credibility which they had originally sought to destroy. It is
    pitiable; what kind of a ridiculous game they do play at?


    Edwardo
     
    Edwardo Alphonse Elric, Jul 27, 2007
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  17. miko

    CatmanX Guest

    Doctors are certainly welcome and provide an insight
    > into the state of the art and what works. I also like to see some
    > researchers post here. I'd like to see what innovative research is


    You came to the wrong place sweety. Researchers wouldn't waste their
    time with your crap. You want some answers, but you ain't got the guts
    to listen or read them.

    There is no prevention. How stupid are you? Shall I repeat, THERE IS
    NO SOLUTION< NO PREVENTION.

    The offer is still there. Come over any time and i can put you out of
    our misery.
     
    CatmanX, Jul 27, 2007
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  18. On Jul 27, 1:51 pm, "Mike Tyner" <> wrote:
    >
    > Otis is free to believe anything he likes. But when he starts spreading his
    > shite, preaching with fervor things that aren't true, you should step in and
    > point out that real life isn't the way he believes it is.


    Or, you could start paying a little respect to the intelligence of
    those who come into this newsgroup and allow them to make that
    decision themselves.
     
    Edwardo Alphonse Elric, Jul 27, 2007
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  19. miko

    Neil Brooks Guest

    On Jul 27, 6:21 am, Edwardo Alphonse Elric
    <> wrote:

    > Or, you could start paying a little respect to the intelligence of
    > those who come into this newsgroup and allow them to make that
    > decision themselves.


    You, under all of your various personalities here, are still an idiot
    and an obnoxious asshole.

    Elderly people--to cite just one example--are constantly defrauded in
    the States--not because of any lack of intelligence, but because of a
    certain trusting naivete, as often as not.

    Somebody desperately seeking the answer to what they think is an
    overwhelming health problem (even simple, low myopia) can skip right
    by all of their critical thinking skills and inherent intelligence to
    hear what they want to hear.

    It WOULD make a nice argument if you could convince people that YOU
    think they're smart while WE think they're not.

    Unfortunately, like EVERYTHING that you type, and virtually EVERYTHING
    that Otis types, it's simply untrue.

    But that doesn't seem to matter to either of you, now does it?
     
    Neil Brooks, Jul 27, 2007
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  20. miko

    Neil Brooks Guest

    On Jul 27, 3:16 am, Edwardo Alphonse Elric
    <> wrote:
    > Time and time again I have been trying to show them
    > that if they were to simply stop arguing, take a look around and see
    > that their bickering is really very childish and unnecessary, that
    > perhaps if they were to only ignore those trolls who so highly bother
    > them, that and only in that case can productive discussion ever
    > emerge.


    And, oh, by the way ... if you weren't so busy creating new identities
    and being an obnoxious asshole, you might notice things like Otis's
    little "Myopia Free" forum--something just short of a THOUSAND
    messages, and--I'd wager-->90% of them written BY Otis AND TO Otis.

    In other words: NOT responding to Otis does NOTHING to stem his
    incessant lying and hurtful advice.
     
    Neil Brooks, Jul 27, 2007
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