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critterfarms@aland.net
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      05-09-2007, 08:20 PM
This may be a bit off topic but maybe somebody here can help me. My
older dog was recently diagnosed with acute glaucoma in one eye. He
has probably lost his vision in that eye and it will maybe be removed.
However I do hope we can save his vision in the other eye, but my
veterinarian doesn't have access to a tonometer!

She says they are too expensive and cases with glaucoma too rare.
After asking around, no other vet in my area have a tonometer (I live
on an island) so now I'm thinking about buying one myself. I know they
are expensive, but maybe there is somebody who knows a good place to
buy used or reconditioned tonometers? Preferably it should be air-puff
or otherwise non contact and hand held. Is there a difference in
tonometers for animals and humans?

Please if you know of a good place to buy one, let me know. It pains
me so much if my dog would become totally blind just because we don't
have the right equipment.

Thanks.

 
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      05-09-2007, 08:37 PM
On May 9, 1:20 pm, critterfa...@aland.net wrote:
> This may be a bit off topic but maybe somebody here can help me. My
> older dog was recently diagnosed with acute glaucoma in one eye. He
> has probably lost his vision in that eye and it will maybe be removed.
> However I do hope we can save his vision in the other eye, but my
> veterinarian doesn't have access to a tonometer!
>
> She says they are too expensive and cases with glaucoma too rare.
> After asking around, no other vet in my area have a tonometer (I live
> on an island) so now I'm thinking about buying one myself. I know they
> are expensive, but maybe there is somebody who knows a good place to
> buy used or reconditioned tonometers? Preferably it should be air-puff
> or otherwise non contact and hand held. Is there a difference in
> tonometers for animals and humans?
>
> Please if you know of a good place to buy one, let me know. It pains
> me so much if my dog would become totally blind just because we don't
> have the right equipment.
>
> Thanks.


At the risk of asking seemingly ridiculous questions, have you called
-- begging and pleading -- every HUMAN-seeing optometrist and
ophthalmologist in your area??

I could easily imagine one being a dog lover and having you come by
after hours to check your dog's pressure.

I'm not too sure how different the technique is (fitting a canine face
into a human gizmo), but ... YOU would face the same challenges ...
with less experience ... if you went the route you propose.

Worth a few calls, no?

 
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Don W
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      05-09-2007, 08:51 PM
So why are we not Googling "canine tonometers"?

There are a lot of follow up links there.

Don W.







 
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      05-09-2007, 09:15 PM
On 5/9/07 1:20 PM, in article
(E-Mail Removed). com,
"(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> This may be a bit off topic but maybe somebody here can help me. My
> older dog was recently diagnosed with acute glaucoma in one eye. He
> has probably lost his vision in that eye and it will maybe be removed.
> However I do hope we can save his vision in the other eye, but my
> veterinarian doesn't have access to a tonometer!

<snip>

Get a new life and/or dog.

Bill

 
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      05-09-2007, 10:52 PM
On May 9, 2:15 pm, Salmon Egg <salmon...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 5/9/07 1:20 PM, in article
> 1178742057.602577.243...@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups. com,
>
> "critterfa...@aland.net" <critterfa...@aland.net> wrote:
> > This may be a bit off topic but maybe somebody here can help me. My
> > older dog was recently diagnosed with acute glaucoma in one eye. He
> > has probably lost his vision in that eye and it will maybe be removed.
> > However I do hope we can save his vision in the other eye, but my
> > veterinarian doesn't have access to a tonometer!

>
> <snip>
>
> Get a new life and/or dog.
>
> Bill


Hey, Bill:

Here's a link for ya':

http://tinyurl.com/jqh2p

Happy reading,

Neil

 
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William Stacy
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      05-10-2007, 12:23 AM


Dr Judy wrote:

>They use old Schiotz type tonometers, calibrated for dog. They
>are available on E-bay and at antique dealers and are affordable.
>
>


I was going to recommend that one. Somone will have to hold the dog
still with it's eye aimed upward and keep the lids pulled apart for the
second or two the reading takes, and you'll have to get some topical
anesthetic to drop in first. They're pretty easy to use and accurate
enough for this purpose. You might even find an old Tonomat around.
Even easier to use.

w.stacy, o.d.
 
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      05-10-2007, 05:11 AM
On May 10, 3:23 am, William Stacy <wst...@obase.net> wrote:
> Dr Judy wrote:
> >They use old Schiotz type tonometers, calibrated for dog. They
> >are available on E-bay and at antique dealers and are affordable.

>
> I was going to recommend that one. Somone will have to hold the dog
> still with it's eye aimed upward and keep the lids pulled apart for the
> second or two the reading takes, and you'll have to get some topical
> anesthetic to drop in first. They're pretty easy to use and accurate
> enough for this purpose. You might even find an old Tonomat around.
> Even easier to use.
>
> w.stacy, o.d.


Thank you for your replies. I must clarify that I meant to donate the
instrument to the vet of course. I realise that I can't use it
myself.

I have a breed that is predisposed to glaucoma due to pectin ligament
dysplasia, and from what I've heard it is important to check the other
eye for elevated pressure.

I will try at ebay and see if I can get the old Schiotz type like you
recommended.

Thanks

 
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      05-10-2007, 05:42 AM
On 5/9/07 3:52 PM, in article
(E-Mail Removed) om, "Neil Brooks"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hey, Bill:
>
> Here's a link for ya':
>
> http://tinyurl.com/jqh2p
>
> Happy reading,


Because of my neighbors, I have little empathy for dog owners.
Finally, they put down the worst barkers because of health problems. They
did not walk them, train them, or pay with them. They leave food out for all
the cats, rats, possums, and pigeons. They have a **** lined roof. Just
today, I had to wipe up a big bird plop on my windshield before I could
drive.

I know all dog owners are not the same, but these are the ones that give the
greatest trouble.

Bill
-- Fermez le Bush--about two years to go.


 
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      05-10-2007, 05:44 AM
On 5/9/07 5:23 PM, in article
1Et0i.2235$(E-Mail Removed), "William Stacy"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>
> Dr Judy wrote:
>
>> They use old Schiotz type tonometers, calibrated for dog. They
>> are available on E-bay and at antique dealers and are affordable.
>>
>>

>
> I was going to recommend that one. Somone will have to hold the dog
> still with it's eye aimed upward and keep the lids pulled apart for the
> second or two the reading takes, and you'll have to get some topical
> anesthetic to drop in first. They're pretty easy to use and accurate
> enough for this purpose. You might even find an old Tonomat around.
> Even easier to use.
>
> w.stacy, o.d.


How skilful can practitioners get in estimating IOP by touch?

Bill
-- Fermez le Bush--about two years to go.


 
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      05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
On May 9, 10:42 pm, Salmon Egg <salmon...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Because of my neighbors, I have little empathy for dog owners.


Because of this, you extrapolated from a sample size of one to the
entire universe of dog owners. More particularly, you exhibited
callous disregard for somebody pained by watching their dog deal with
late-stage physical problems.

With each successive post, you seem to have more and more in common
with Otis, Bill.

And that's far from a compliment.

Bitch at your neighbors. Leave people like the OP alone.

 
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