16 year old with thousand degree glasses contemplating suicide

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by youidiota, May 27, 2005.

  1. youidiota

    youidiota Guest

    As a child my windows had cloudy stickers on them similar to the color
    of a plastic bag. So the farthest distance my eyes were exposed to
    were around 5 feet. I received glasses when I was 7. I played
    computer games and all that, now I'm 16. I've removed the cloudy
    sticker from my windows. It was only when I tried to participate in
    sports teams that I realized how much trouble my glasses were to me.
    My contacts say 7.5 diopters left eye 9 diopters right eye. My glasses
    are way stronger. My mom says they are 1000 degrees. I wore them for
    a while and they were really hard to wear because when glasses are that
    high of diopters they are really hard to break in to. After reading
    all the things about myopia reversal I have started to wear weaker
    glasses. Thus the glasses I wear now are very weak and I have two
    pairs that are stronger. In school I have to walk up and sit on the
    floor if my seat is in the back. I have dropped these glasses a lot
    and when I look through them it is really annoying to see all these
    scrapes and cuts on the lense. I am the only 16 year old I know who
    has eyes this bad. It sucks. The part where the suicide thoughts come
    in is this. I've been coming to think that myopia reversal is
    impossible. People say that it takes years. I think this is unfair,
    that I had no control over how my vision became. No one told me about
    they eyes. The schools just said read read read. I think the schools
    are very evil that they tell us to study but yet they yell at us when
    we cannot see the board, when they were the ones who told us to read so
    much which made us get myopia. My parents' parents come from hong
    kong. I wish I lived in China where they make the children do eye
    exercises. Too bad this government isn't like that. I don't know what
    I'm going to do. I figure that these glasses will one day break, then
    I cannot get another one. I think it is illegal right? Does anyone
    know if it's possible to get another weak pair of glasses like the ones
    I'm wearing? Or if these break do I have to wear the really strong
    ones? I know that doctors prescribe prescriptions, and I don't think
    my parents have the old prescription. I don't know the prescription of
    these glasses. I don't even know if I should be wearing these old
    glasses. I don't see any improvement, and I've been wearing them for
    like 2 months or around there. I do not know what to do and am
    contemplating suicide because if I do wear those really strong glasses
    my eyes will get even worse and later on I will get macular
    degeneration, retinal detachment, glaucoma, or cataracts. I do not
    want to get these diseases. I do not want to wear the really strong
    glasses or contacts. The contacts hurt so much that I tense up my face
    and I force my eyes to bulge because of the pain. They bulge so much
    that my grandma called me ugly and that my eyes bulge. At least that's
    what I think she said. She said it in a language that I do not
    understand. I do not want any messages that say I am not ugly, or it
    doesn't matter how you look. Even if it is true, that is not why I'm
    posting this message. I want to know, which pair of glasses should I
    wear. On top of that many many many people call me ugly, my parents
    hint that I am unattractive, or just say it outright. I'm not being
    paranoid, I'm not being defensive. This is just my life. I live in
    San Francisco, and as you all can see, I have very little to live for.
    The best moments in my life have been online, playing Diablo 2
    Expansion. Those were good times. I am the only person I know who
    wants to play that forever and ever. I do not want anyone to tell me
    that there is something to live for, because there is not. I cannot
    afford college, and if I could my transcript sucks, and also I wouldn't
    be able to see the blackboard. I seriously have nothing to live for,
    and may be jumping off the golden gate bridge onto concrete, only
    idiots go into the water. If I were to do that I would go head first
    and spread out my legs to maintain my body position. This wouldn't be
    so bad if I were a goodlooking girl, so I could just golddig men, but
    this is not the way it is. Please, I need someone to respond, my
    thoughts are unstable.
    youidiota, May 27, 2005
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    NN Guest

    play WoW and the good old times are back.
    NN, May 27, 2005
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    nothing Guest

    x-no-archive: yes

    heh well..heck im bored.
    i have poor eyesight, have worn glasses since kindergarten and i can
    remember the first day i wore glasses to school, or at least a small
    part of that day of sitting on the teachers lap her telling the class i
    wear glasses now. duh dont announce it lady. one boy who i was friends
    with raised his hand and told me his mother and aunt wear glasses too.
    anyway, my glasses are weak but thats because i dont have money for the
    eye drs, and i dont like going anyway.
    but ive worn very weak glasses for my eyes for almost two years and all
    i get are headaches, not improving eye sight, because as the two years
    have gone by, i see worse now. so i dont know if a dependency on
    glasses is a true theory, that glasses that are the right prescription
    make your eyes worse. i dont believe that, i think its just like the
    rest of your body that ages. but what do i know. your eyes will stop
    getting worse for a period, usually around 18-20, then it gets bad
    again for maybe a couple years, then you wont need a new rx, then a few
    years later you will, etc.
    anyway having glasses or not, really doesnt make such a big difference
    in your appearance imo.
    and as for going to college, you can go to a community college, no
    matter how bad your highschool has been. haha trust me, because that
    was me. and community colleges are very cheap, and if you get good
    grades there, you get a lot of help to transfer to a four year school
    if thats what you want to do.
    nothing, May 27, 2005
  4. youidiota

    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Youidi,

    In general 10 "degrees" of myopia
    is stated as 10 diopters of myopia.

    A plus lens of 1 diopter has
    a focal length of 1 meter.

    There is a doctor in Hong Kong
    working on prevention with
    the plus -- to be started
    early into nearsighedness.
    He web site is:


    You might contact him
    for his advice.


    otisbrown, May 27, 2005
  5. youidiota

    SOL_Express Guest

    While I'm not an inspiration for stability, I know that you can order
    contact lenses online without a prescription.
    http://www.coastalcontacts.com/ is one site. Perhaps a different kind
    wouldn't hurt as much.

    I don't know about glasses.
    SOL_Express, May 27, 2005
  6. youidiota

    A Lieberman Guest

    Dear Youidi,

    Please ignore Otis.

    He is not in the medical profession nor is he in any position to give you
    medical advice or medical referrals.

    Thank you!

    A Lieberman, May 27, 2005
  7. youidiota

    youidiota Guest

    my parents won't let me live here if all i do is play games. I have
    56k. I'm not paying that monthly fee.
    youidiota, May 27, 2005
  8. youidiota

    youidiota Guest

    no a degree is one hundreth of a diopter. Therefore a diopter is a
    hundred degrees. I saw it on a website saying that myopes 800 through
    1300 degrees were cured by intacs.
    youidiota, May 27, 2005
  9. youidiota

    youidiota Guest

    thanks i didn't really check out the site cus it's nighttime and i'm
    tired. I'm not sure what my prescription is though. Hey that other
    guy just said wearing weak glasses is pointless. Maybe the minute you
    start wearing glasses you're screwed.
    youidiota, May 27, 2005
  10. youidiota

    youidiota Guest

    you've worn glasses ever since kindegarten? That's horrible. Maybe
    that means myopia is inherited? Is the reason why your vision is
    deteriorating because of close work or not enough distance vision
    practice? Or did you try all that? What do you mean you're eyes are
    getting worse? How bad are they and how old are you? My eyes are so
    bad I can't read a book normally at all. With these weak glasses on I
    need to put my head really close to the computer.
    youidiota, May 27, 2005
  11. Glasses are only intended for two I's. Sorry, but you do go on a bit
    about them, very much in the first person. This is me being insensitive
    but what's the fuss? The good thing is that technology in this field is
    always improving. In a few years, corrective surgery may be available
    for the most severe cases.

    Your optician should be able to advise you on lenses and glasses- tell
    him/her that you have irritation!
    Marginal Product, May 27, 2005
  12. So sci.med.vision has turned into a chat room for unhappy adolescent
    myopes? I think it's time for another sabatical...

    w.stacy, o.d.
    William Stacy, May 27, 2005
  13. oops I see this is cross-posted to a suicide group. sorry.

    I'll be more careful next time.

    w.stacy, o.d.
    William Stacy, May 27, 2005
  14. youidiota

    SOL_Express Guest

    It'll be there if you want to check. What I did was get my contacts fit
    professionally, obtained my prescription, and then just ordered a
    year's supply online. It was a heck of a lot cheaper than buying
    straight from the optometrist.

    Customer service at that site told me that (in Canada) a prescription
    is not required to purchase contacts, but it is required to make
    returns or exchanges on unused contacts.
    SOL_Express, May 27, 2005
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    ~ vera ~ Guest

    Hi (((((((Whateveryournameis)))))))),

    when I was 16 - which is long ago - I had the same proplem you are having
    now. No, I will not tell you it is no problem. I know it is a very big
    problem. I am short-sighted, too, and had to we glasses. But I tried the
    contacts, and I can tell you, the first week or two was a horror. But then
    after that my eyes got used to them, and I am still wearing contacts. How
    long have you tried to wear them? I know it hurts in the beginning, but it
    could really be worthwhile trying it again, just ignoring the pain and bad
    feeling, knowing what you will get. I think this would be the best solution
    there is.

    But I am also sure that you can get new light glasses. Maybe there is a
    possibility to repair the surface of yours??? You should simply ask the
    specialist. If you want to, I can also do some research in the Internet for
    you and try to find ways.

    Being short-sighted does not come from reading at school, by the way, but
    you are usually born with it - as far as I know.

    Did you know that surgeons can replace complete lenses in the eye, and that
    this is a rather simple surgery, as I have heard??? Would that be possible
    maybe? But one had to be very brave for a while.

    Did you also know that my diopters were reduced by 1, and I think by wearing
    contacs? But nobody can really tell you why.

    What is "Diabolo 2 Expansion"? A computer game? Some years ago I also liked
    to play computer games with my son. He will be 15 in August.

    Okay, the worst thing that might happen now is that you cannot continue to
    wear the glasses you are wearing now - is that right? I am sure that you can
    get new ones. I am sure there will be a way to get them if necessary. Maybe
    we could even try to have a collection for it here or on my website. I would
    start and give money for that, too.

    Maybe we could find a church and a priest in California who takes care of
    this collection. I am sure there is a way that people know that the right
    person will get the money. That is a problem, of course.

    Bye for now,

    ~ vera ~, May 27, 2005
  16. youidiota

    ~ vera ~ Guest

    Why don't you simply ignore this thread if you do not like it? This young
    person needs help, and you are heartless. I am glad that not all people are
    like you. I hope you do not practice as a doctor and have to deal with

    ~ vera ~
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    ~ vera ~, May 27, 2005
  17. ~ vera ~ wrote:

    a cross post.

    I answered her on the alt.suicide.holiday group. Anyone can go there to
    see my response.

    w.stacy, o.d.
    William Stacy, May 27, 2005
  18. Youidi,

    I noticed that you also recently posted a question about alternative
    methods of suicide, and more specifically, your thoughts about jumping
    the Golden Gate bridge.

    Please, please, please talk to someone--a real live person, not just a
    faceless person on the Internet chat board--about these feelings.
    Please realize that the feelings of self-hatred and unhappiness and
    despair are COMPLETELY NORMAL for someone your age. Everyone goes
    through bad patches. But you are so young and you have no idea how much
    the future holds for you. You have so much to live for that you
    don't/can't even realize at this point in your life.

    Is there someone that you can talk to? A
    friend/counselor/teacher/family member?
    KelleyandHall, May 27, 2005
  19. youidiota

    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    That's good, Otis. Real good. This young person has 10 diopters of
    myopia and you are referring them to a site on myopia prevention. Your
    myopia prevention ideas aren't worth the bytes they are printed on.
    Misguiding people into false hope isn't the way to go through life,

    Dr. Leukoma, May 27, 2005
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    ~ vera ~ Guest

    Dear one,

    I have asked my friend in California, and she had the following ideas that
    might help you:

    ========start quote======

    "The Lyons Club donates glasses to people all the time. They have been doing
    it for years. I am sure there is a local chapter, perhaps many in San
    Francisco. They especially like to donate to children because they are the
    most needy.

    There are also solutions that you can put on the lenses that will remove the
    scratches, but everytime you wash the lenses you must reapply the solution.
    I have seen it advertised on HSN (home shopping network.) HSN.com might have
    it too.

    Who know, the Lyons club might even be able to do more, buy new
    glasses/contacts, or perhaps help with the needed surgery. It never hurts to
    ask and plead her case."

    ========end quote======

    And she thinks that "beauty is not something we put on our eyes, it is what
    we put in our eyes. Beauty is more than make up, it is being useful,
    compassionate, understanding, loving, and loveable."

    I bet you have these things.

    She also gave me an ancient Chinese Proverb for you:

    If there is right in the soul,
    There will be beauty in the person.
    If there is beauty in the person,
    There will be harmony in the home.
    If there is harmony in the home,
    There will be order in the nation,
    If there is order in the nation,
    There will be peace in the world.
    (Ancient Chinese Proverb)

    Maybe that helps, but I know what it is like at the age of 16, too.

    So maybe the Lion's Club could be of help for you. Shall I find out for you
    if there is a chance?


    ~ vera ~
    ~ vera ~, May 27, 2005
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