-8 myopes that can see 1 inch led digits without glasses from distance

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 21, 2004.

  1. How can you explain these facts?

    You cannot, unless you accept that refraction is something that changes
    so quickly that you cannot understand how the mind can track it and
    rebuild a clear picture in the visual field, despite the myopic
    "average" state.

    Those who are REALLY INTERESTED in these matters, should do something.

    Practice rest methods, train your imagination, and get a cure for your
    imperfect sight!!!

    It's not impossible!!!

    There are testimonies of this.

    It can happen!!!


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    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 21, 2004
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  2. please, with or without glasses?

    Your wife has not normal sight.

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    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 22, 2004
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  3. Why do you say his pupil is large in the night?
    This is not so easy to believe because pupils do not behave as you think.
    There are people who have very large pupils in the daylight also,
    expecially lasiked people, suffering the trauma.

    It is true also the reverse.

    There are people with tiny pupils even in the night.

    Ask you patient if his wife can check the pupil at night.

    He says he sees a perfect image, you should ask if this image is in the
    center. Is it in the center (where he is MORE myopic)???

    Ask your patient if the images change when he looks at them more through
    the eccentric field.

    According to your explanation, he should see them BETTER when outside
    the central field, and WORSE at the center because there the cornea is
    steeper.

    Isn't it right?

    Now he will answer you that these images dance with no logic at all.

    Ask him.



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    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 22, 2004
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  4. Mike Tyner wrote:

    You test all what you want to test, not the truth.
    Of course your statement was wrong: what you say is not always right,
    but you forget this and offer only the facts that suit you and call
    these facts scientific!
    I didn't know too: but all the people after lasik have grown pupils
    large. Do you think there is a meaning?

    Anyway I rely on what Dr. Bates says, which was a doctor like you and
    visited many thousands of people, not like you: he states that in
    perfect sighted people the pupil does not change very much.

    And that a pinhole pupil has been observed in patient in the dark.

    To me this is sufficient to say that there are no fixed rules and you
    are not telling the truth.

    I don't measure anything. I just talk out of my own experience of a cure
    of myopia and that of others.

    I'm interested in the healthy man.

    How many people you visit which are healthy, at least in the eyes, with
    20/10 vision? How many have you tested?

    Give a number (20/10 without any glasses or surgery!)
    You said that old people and hyperopes have this occourrence, so what is
    the truth?
    You see you speak out of authority and not out of true science, which is
    analyzing the facts.

    You prefer to discard the facts which are not in tune with your own
    theory about them.

    So 100 years have not passed: we are still in the times of Dr. Bates,
    when people like you discarded the fact that afakic eyes were able to
    accomodate.

    I was not saying this, you were saying this!!!
    I say that the cornea does not have much influence about multiple
    images, I say they are created in the mind and not in the retina.

    I think you are mismatching things here.

    According to my understanding, a scratch is not very much important. the
    true importance is in the mind that interprets the retina images.

    Your friend creates multiple images out of mental strain.

    Ask him.

    The book I sell has helped me to cure my own imperfect sight, and any
    day I get better. Has helped many other people too!!!

    Yesterday I have spotted for few instants some letters on the 20/10 line.

    I know it happened in a flash, not very continuous and not repeatable by
    will, but day by day I become more confident.

    I am drawn day by day to perfect sight without glasses.

    When I see that vision tends to blur when I read a paper, I suddenly am
    reminded of central fixation and move away my gaze. Everything turns out
    to become clear again!

    After you see some 20/10 letters, you understand many things.

    First, that the size of letters we are accustomed to is really too big!
    And this is a great source of strain, mental strain.

    I am practicing reading at the near point a 9x reduction of a A4 page
    printed in very small print (in fact, a reduction of a tabloid paper).

    To let you understand, please visit www.ilfoglio.it and download a pdf
    you find on the left corner.

    Then print it with 9x reduction, and you can understand what I am doing.

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    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 22, 2004
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  5. This description fits in with my interpretation of what I saw before my
    cataract was removed. It was my fly's eye interpretation.
    I do not think that the lens is "clearer." What I think is happening is that
    this small portion of the aperture acts like a pinhole. The combination of
    lens an pinhole can give a pretty decent image. Because the LED is
    relatively bright, Using the open pupil is not a detriment to sharp vision,
    color vision, or insufficient brightness.

    Bill
     
    Repeating Rifle, Jan 22, 2004
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  6. Rishi Giovanni Gatti

    Dan Abel Guest

    Yes. Old people and hyperopes. Of course you knew that because you've measured
    so many.[/QUOTE]
    I think that you aren't measuring them correctly, Mike. Take a patient
    and put them in a dim room. Now look at their pupils. You won't be able
    to see them, because it's too dark. So take a couple of honkin' big
    flashlights and shine them in the patient's eyes. Wait a couple of
    minutes for your eyes to adjust. Now look at the pupils. You will find
    that nearly all pupils will be small, even in a dim room like that.


    :)
     
    Dan Abel, Jan 22, 2004
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  7. Nonetheless, there are people who are myopic but have not been operated
    of cataracts that see multiple images DANCING and changing.

    Their cornea is "regular" and everything is ok.

    If they happen to rest their eyes, multiple images tend to disappear.

    If they happen to rise the strain in the mind, a strain to see, multiple
    images get worse.


    By the way, the led is not bright at all, in fact in the day is scarcely
    visible. It is the contrast between the darkness in the room at night
    that creates a new source of strain for the tense mind to work with. The
    result is multiple images.

    This is not by any menas true for all.

    There are myopic people who cannot see anything of the led without
    glasses in the darkness.

    Again this means that their strain is different: in this case, the
    strain acts on the refraction, and the eye is out of focus.

    In the previous case, refraction was quite right, because the led was
    seen keenly at least in one imagine, and the multeplicity of images was
    created mentally.
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 22, 2004
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  8. And you work for an University?
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 22, 2004
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  9. Rishi Giovanni Gatti

    Dan Abel Guest


    Yeah, I'm the night janitor.

    :)

    You *do* know what the above symbol means?
     
    Dan Abel, Jan 22, 2004
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  10. A night idiot.
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 23, 2004
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  11. Rishi Giovanni Gatti

    Jan Guest

    "Dan Abel" <> schreef in bericht
    major snip...
    I'm able to measure with the help of infrared and so do others.
    This kind of measurment is also used to determin the pupil in low or dark
    light circumstances to see if someone is a candidate for LASIK,LASEK etc..

    Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
     
    Jan, Jan 25, 2004
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