Ace told me to take off my myopia glasses while reading

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by Spockie, Dec 24, 2005.

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    Spockie Guest

    Ace told me to take off my myopia glasses while reading.


    You all agree that there is no reason to do that right?
     
    Spockie, Dec 24, 2005
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    acemanvx Guest

    acemanvx, Dec 24, 2005
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    Dan Abel Guest

    We don't all agree.

    Young people with normal but myopic vision don't need to.

    It's pretty simple to test. Just try it.

    Back when I had myopia, I could not reasonably read without my myopia
    glasses.
     
    Dan Abel, Dec 24, 2005
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    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Spockie,

    This depends on your "situation".

    If you can read the eye chart at
    20/50, (-1.25 diopters) then
    I would strongly suggest that
    you never use that minus lens
    whilst reading.

    And, for that matter, keep the
    minus off -- unless absolutly
    necessary.

    Best,

    Otis
     
    otisbrown, Dec 24, 2005
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    Spockie Guest


    What do you do for a living?
     
    Spockie, Dec 24, 2005
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    Spockie Guest

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    acemanvx Guest

    "And, for that matter, keep the
    minus off -- unless absolutly
    necessary."


    I wish I could keep the minus off but being -4.5 diopters and having
    around -.5(half) diopter astigmastim, my uncorrected vision is just too
    poor. I however do take my glasses off and read at 10 inches which is 4
    diopters so its very slightly blurry which is the whole point to
    improving my vision. This guy however is only a -2.5 so id imagine he
    could forgo glasses around the house, for reading and possibily for the
    computer too.


    "If you can read the eye chart at
    20/50, (-1.25 diopters) then
    I would strongly suggest that
    you never use that minus lens
    whilst reading."

    Actually, id reccomend you read without the minus lense even if you
    have as much as -5 diopters myopia. I am -4.5 and I read just fine from
    10 inches without the minus lense. High myopes could either get
    bifocals or use their old glasses for reading. -1.25 does correlate to
    20/50 for most people, but for some they can see 20/40 or even 20/30
    but then they are seeing better than 20/20 with glasses! I have a
    friend whos -1.5 in one eye and sees 20/40 uncorrected, 20/15 with
    glasses. His other eye is much worse. He does NOT wear glasses full
    time, smart guy I tell ya :) He does want lasik in the worse eye but
    will leave the 20/40 eye alone, giving him monovision and keeping him
    out of reading glasses.


    "If you get the second image with glasses, then you might need to get
    another eye exam.

    It does not appear to be normal."


    You will see for yourself when you approach the age of 40. I am younger
    but it can happen earlier. Actually, I bet youll see clearer if you
    read without glasses. I told some of my myopic friends to read without
    glasses and they are amazed how clear and crisp words are! If you like
    seeing a little blurry from near and making your eyes worse, thats your
    loss. Most myopes take their glasses off to read.
     
    acemanvx, Dec 24, 2005
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  8. Curious that he didn't reply. Otis always replies.


    w.stacy, o.d.
     
    William Stacy, Dec 24, 2005
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    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Ace,

    Subject: You got most of this "right".
    VERY RELUCTANT to put a minus lens on a kid.

    There "intuitive" sense was right on target!

    The would attempt to keep the minus OFF the kid -- until
    their eye-chart went below 20/40.

    It is tragict that they couild not have been more "articulate".
    They were right in their "good sense".

    The other part of this "equation" is the matter of the
    parents and child ACCEPTING the use of the
    plus at that delicate stage. That is the real
    difficulty of true prevention.

    I indeed when through this with my nephew, Keith,
    explaining how difficult "prevention" is.

    He had a "minus" prescription at age 13. (I said
    that this was provided in "good faith" but he
    had to "trash" the prescription an accept
    the "intutive" (now science-based) second-opinion.

    But agressively using the plus -- he cleared his vsiion
    to always pass all legal visual requirements.

    He is now 40 years old, and has children of his
    own. I think he will monitor them for the
    "bad" visual habits some children develop.

    By doing this, and avoiding that over-prescribed
    minus -- I would hope that they learn the
    technique of effective prevention.

    This is obviously a matter of PERSONAL choice -- and
    if done correctly --- the person avoids that stair-case
    myopia -- but avoiding that first "step".

    As far as I am concerned our "bad habits" get us
    slightly into it. But over-prescribing is what
    "kicks" you down that flight of stairs.

    It is indeed a difficult "lesson" to learn.

    Not all of this is "OD responsibility" Some
    of it is OUR responsibility -- to take
    prevention seriously, and if necessary
    learn to do it ourselves.

    This is truly the "second opinion" -- however
    difficult it will be to implement.

    Merry Christmas,

    Otis


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    otisbrown, Dec 25, 2005
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    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Spockie,

    I am a retired engineer..

    Best,

    Otis
     
    otisbrown, Dec 25, 2005
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    "Anecdotal evidence is a term commonly used to indicate
    (pseudo-)scientific evidence based on single episodes ("anecdotes"),
    instead of proper and verifiable statistics.

    Anecdotal evidence is often used to support an unlikely claim that
    cannot withstand scientific proof; in this meaning, it can generally
    not be reproduced, and as such it is not accepted as a scientific
    proof, but rather as a hallmark of quackery."
     
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    CatmanX Guest

    You really are a fucking idiot!!!!!

    This is just more proof.

    dr grant
     
    CatmanX, Dec 25, 2005
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    p.clarkii Guest

    ... who goes around giving unlearned advise about myopia.

    ... who practices medicine without a license

    ... who ignors the current scientific data while clutching relentlessly
    to a few outdated studies on chickens and monkeys to support his
    "theory"

    ... who believes he has a perfect understanding of the blueprints and
    design goals of the human eye even though the objective data on the eye
    shows it behaves differently.

    ... who has a touch of Alzheimers and really should be kept away from
    his computer.

    ... who believes there is a conspiracy among eye doctors and optical
    companies to put "the wretched minus" lenses on the unsuspecting public
    so they can hook them for the rest of their lives. (i guess the
    conspiracy must work better in china, japan, singapore)

    ... who is rather taken with himself and his own prose.
     
    p.clarkii, Dec 25, 2005
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