Advice for 9-year old newly in glasses.

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by Ed, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. Ed

    Ms.Brainy Guest

    Mr./Ms. Szczepan, what planet are you on?

    Ms.Brainy, Feb 1, 2008
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  2. actual amount of tension generated by the ciliary muscle is relatively

    But something in the front part of the eye must deform. Lenses, cornea
    and/or pupil.
    accommodation has been experimentally-tested in real-time ultrasound
    experiments and found to be invalid.

    This are details. If shape of the eye is the same then the deformations are
    inside of the front part of the eye. But the cornea must react a little for
    Szczepan Bialek, Feb 2, 2008
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  3. I recommend an alternative medicine site.

    In science are steps. The first is an observation ( Newton's apple). To find
    a reason of the myopia epidemic all observations should be taken into
    Szczepan Bialek, Feb 2, 2008
  4. From such where people eat from 1g (somewhere in Brazil) to 50g (somewhere
    in China) and nobody know what is better.
    Szczepan Bialek, Feb 2, 2008
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    We know myopia exists.

    We know that many people are myopic.

    Recognizing the problem IS the 1st step in the scientific method:

    1) Recognize the problem - we have;

    2) Make observations about the problem - we have;

    3) Establish a hypothesis - many have;

    4) Design and conduct experiments to test your hypothesis - many have;

    5) Based on those experiments, form a conclusion - many have

    The purpose of a science-based forum is to discuss things with a
    grounding in science, and the scientific method -- things that have
    been consistently shown to be both safe and effective.

    What you're talking about DOES belong in an alternative medicine

    It has no experimental evidence to back it up.

    Just like Otis: the experimental evidence shows your theory to be
    Neil Brooks, Feb 2, 2008
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    Many observations then can be summarily dismissed, depending upon
    one's level of education and knowledge.
    Dr. Leukoma, Feb 2, 2008
  7. Let us consider the two:
    1. Reading causes myopia,
    2. Myopia causes reading
    The second is rather new. Here is the proper hipothesis: "Myopia is caused
    by muscle weaknes (J. Bershak). So we need next hipotesis. My is: "It is
    caused by deficiency of minerals". A good source of minerals is unrafined
    salt made of ocean water. See how much is there magnesium and sulphur
    (important for muscles)
    Things are changing. Till now my intuition was not bed.
    Szczepan Bialek, Feb 3, 2008
  8. "Dr. Leukoma"
    one's level of education and knowledge.

    If it is new sometimes it is proper to verify it.
    Szczepan Bialek, Feb 3, 2008
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    Look out ironjustice, here comes saltman.
    Dr. Leukoma, Feb 3, 2008
  10. Ed

    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    I did a search on "bershak j" in Pubmed and nothing came up.
    Dr. Leukoma, Feb 3, 2008
  11. Szczepan Bialek, Feb 3, 2008
  12. "Dr. Leukoma"
    Sportsmen must eat salt (much more than 15 grams). Why children (which are
    very active) are different?
    Szczepan Bialek, Feb 3, 2008
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    It reads like a preacher of the Bates religion. I particularly was
    impressed by his lack of a bibliography.

    And what's with this "orthodox optometry" stuff? Bates has been
    rejected by all visual scientists across the board.

    Anyway, you've now earned a place in my killfile.
    Dr. Leukoma, Feb 3, 2008
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    p.clarkii Guest

    i really like the way you cut to the chase.

    I was about to post a response until I read your's. that's "nuff
    p.clarkii, Feb 3, 2008
  15. Ed

    p.clarkii Guest

    so details of how the human eye actually functions are not important?

    you are making claims that are simply untrue. do you ever research
    things before you speak?
    and perhaps it does react "a little" in some insignificant microscopic
    fashion but that reaction has no influence on human vision.

    you are incredible. you give advise but you have NO VALID
    you need to read and study some instead of giving people advise.

    there are many levels of stupidity. the worse is the person who is so
    stupid that they don't even know they are stupid. I think that is
    p.clarkii, Feb 3, 2008
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    p.clarkii Guest

    p.clarkii, Feb 3, 2008
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    Dan Abel Guest

    One of the things that education and knowledge gives is the ability to
    recognize when something is actually new, or just new to the person
    presenting it. Your "new" information gets discovered and presented to
    this group about every three months, for the many years I have been
    reading the group.


    "William Horatio Bates (1860-1931) first published his treatise, The
    Cure of Imperfect Sight by Treatment Without Glasses (title page), also
    known as Perfect Sight Without Glasses (cover), in 1920."

    After scientific studies disproved this method of cure, eye doctors
    stopped recommending it.
    Dan Abel, Feb 3, 2008
  18. "Dan Abel"
    The both method (Bates and Bershak) are very difficult to understanding and
    time-consuming. So they are impractical.
    But they discavered that the external muscles affect the focusing and
    recommend the eye muscle training. But we know that all training is
    succesful only when no mineral defficiency. So my suggestion to improve
    muscles by minerals suplementation. Kids have much opportunity to training
    all muscles so is quite possible that the issue is in nutrition. Many
    research is still undone.
    Szczepan Bia³ek, Feb 4, 2008
  19. The both method have chance to be succesfull only after changes in
    nutrition. People eat what they want and it is not wrong. But eating salt is
    not allowed and this is probably wrong. Table salt is now a "technical NaCl"
    and this is also wrong.
    Szczepan Bia³ek, Feb 4, 2008
  20. Not advice but suggestion and my conclusion after study.
    I know that I am full of doubts. So I present my conclusions here and
    appreciate any answers.
    Szczepan Bialek, Feb 4, 2008
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