Becoming an optician

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by douglas, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. douglas

    douglas Guest

    I'm thinking of apprenticing to my ophthalmologist's optician, so I
    can have a part-time job, as well as be able to pass the ABO NOCE
    exam. My ophthalmologist's optician also grinds the lenses, so I
    assume she has all the theoretical knowledge of optics as well.

    Is apprenticing a good way to break into opticianry?
     
    douglas, Aug 21, 2009
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    Otis Guest

    Dear Doug,

    Excellent choice. Here is an introductory video about the office
    equipment:

    The Phoropter is a "mechanized" trial lens kit. But the rest is
    stright-forward.



    In your basic optical analysis, remember that the eye has a nominal
    length of 24 mm.

    The OD community is still working to get the optical length to match
    the physical length.


    Enjoy,
     
    Otis, Aug 21, 2009
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  3. douglas

    douglas Guest

    No, his website says they have a lab on premises. http://www.hertzogeyecare..com/
     
    douglas, Aug 21, 2009
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    Dr Judy Guest

    Opticians don't do refraction.

    Judy
     
    Dr Judy, Aug 21, 2009
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  5. douglas

    Dr Judy Guest

    It depends on the licensing requirements where you live. In many
    places, you need to take a 2-3 year college program which would
    include some intern/apprectice time. Ask the optician what the rules
    are where you live.

    Judy
     
    Dr Judy, Aug 21, 2009
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    Dan Abel Guest

    At least not in certain countries. Still, it isn't trivial (or
    stright-forward as Otis claims).
     
    Dan Abel, Aug 21, 2009
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    Otis Guest

    Dear Dan,

    Subject: I NEVER said that "opticians" do "refractions."

    If you watched the video -- it just presented the equipmet in an OD's
    office. My statement about the trial-lens set, was to describe the
    true nature of a phoropter.

    The phoropter makes it easier and faster, no doubt, but you can
    understand the use of a "lens" and a Snellen to establish the
    refractive STATE of a person by showing him a trial lens kit.

    That does NOT mean he can use a trial-lens kit to prescribe.

    Enjoy,
     
    Otis, Aug 21, 2009
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    Dr Judy Guest

    Douglas was asking about training to become an optician; you responded
    with a video about phoropters and refraction. Seemed sensible to
    assume you were showing him some equipment he might use as an
    optician.

    Judy
     
    Dr Judy, Aug 21, 2009
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    Idiot.
     
    Neil Brooks, Aug 21, 2009
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  10. douglas

    Otis Guest

    Dear Judy,

    Your thesis is the opticians should be in total ignorance of the
    equipment in and OD shop?

    And Doug should be maintained that way?

    Isn't that a bit arrogant?

    You talk about a "Phoropter" to an optician, and you want him to ask,
    "...whats that?"

    Enjoy,
     
    Otis, Aug 22, 2009
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    There you go ... putting words in the mouths of others, again.

    Idiot.
     
    Neil Brooks, Aug 22, 2009
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    Dr Judy Guest

    I don't recall saying that.

    My point is that Douglas asked a question about how to start a career
    as an optician and you responded with a link to a video that was not
    about being an optician.

    Maybe we should ask Douglas which post he thought was relevant to his
    question.

    Judy
     
    Dr Judy, Aug 22, 2009
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    It makes you wonder whether Mike and Judy -- maybe more than all of
    the others who have come and gone -- have either raised young children
    or cared for senile elder relatives.

    The patience with which they handle Otis, the doddering old fool, is
    uncanny.
     
    Neil Brooks, Aug 22, 2009
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  14. douglas

    douglas Guest

    Your second post, Judy.
     
    douglas, Aug 22, 2009
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    Dan Abel Guest

    It seems reasonable to me that an optician would learn how to use a
    phoropter, even if they weren't going to use it in their work. Speaking
    from ignorance here, I would think that it wouldn't be difficult to
    learn how to twirl the dials, and that would help them when working with
    customers. I would think the hard part would be interpreting the
    results, and then writing a correct prescription based on that
    interpretation. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Don't be silly, Mike. In all the years we've been here, has Otis ever
    seemed embarrassed, or even admitted he's been wrong, even when he's
    posted incredibly stupid things?
     
    Dan Abel, Aug 22, 2009
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    Dr Judy Guest

    It's not difficult to learn to use a phoropter, but opticians are not
    legally allowed to write prescriptions, nor are they allowed to modify
    OD or MD prescriptions.

    In any event, I did not say opticians should be prohibited from
    learning about phoropters and trial lenses. Douglas had asked for
    advice about how to start training as an optician. Otis responded
    with no advice about optician training but with a link to a video
    about refraction equipment, equipment that opticians do not use. I
    simply pointed out to Otis that refraction was not within an opticians
    scope of practice.

    Judy
     
    Dr Judy, Aug 22, 2009
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    Dan Abel Guest

    Perhaps I wasn't clear. I was trying to say that the "hard part" is
    left to the OD (or MD). It isn't within the scope of training of an
    optician, to my knowledge. But I didn't really write that. My bad.
    Thanks for your explanation. Perhaps someone can give Douglas some
    advice. Perhaps not. This group covers the whole world. Laws are
    different in every country. I don't know about Canada, but in the US,
    laws are different for each state. I am certainly no expert, but have
    relatives in the business.

    Perhaps Douglas should state where he lives.
     
    Dan Abel, Aug 22, 2009
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    douglas Guest

    I am in Caifornia, and I know the difference b/w an optician and an
    optometrist. I want a job as a dispensing optician, not an
    optometrist.
     
    douglas, Aug 23, 2009
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    Otis Guest

    Doug,

    You were correct -- opticians do grind lenses.

    Here are some details for your interest.



    Good luck,
     
    Otis, Aug 24, 2009
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    That you're an idiot?

    Was there ever a doubt??

    Nah.
     
    Neil Brooks, Aug 24, 2009
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