Alright folks, hopefully this will generate some useful discussion.\n\nI've been wearing soft contact lenses now since 1982 for more than\ntwenty (20) years. I'm 33 and that means I've been wearing soft\ncontact lenses for most of of life. As most users, there are good\ndays and bad days. Overall, though, contact lense wear has been good\nand worth the time, cost, and effort. Also, I've been using AOSEPT\nsince 1984 and have found it to be tricky and painful - at times -\neven when you're doing everything right (i.e., rinsing the cleaners\noff, filing only to fill line, replacing cup after 90 days, etc.)\n\nRecently, I was on a trip out of the country and suffered with a few\nmore "bad days," that almost ruined my vacation. I sworn then that I\nwas going to solve this problem once and for all - as I am sure others\nhave - or switch to a new system. Hence, I have discovered this\nnewsgroups. Hopefully, someone out there can offer some good advice.\nSo, what is the best AOSEPT regime that other AOSEPT users have found\nworks well?\n\n(First, some stats: OD: -6.25; OS: -6.75, Durasoft (Weslyn Jessen)\nD3-X4; B.C. 8.6; Dim: 14.5. I use the following products: AOSEPT\n(regular, not plus), Software SALINE, Miraflow Cleaner, Ultrazyme\nEnzymatic Cleaner [Allergen]).\n\nMy regime is this: Enzyme on Sundays, clean with Miraflow every other\nday, replace lenses after 6-12 months depending on protein deposits,\nflexibility of lens, wear, etc.).\n\nI've noticed and experienced the following problems: Burning/Stinging\nfor No Apparent Reason. Here are some "theories" that I've developed\nover the years:\n\n(1) Cleaner Remaining on the Lenses?: As all AOSEPT users have\nexperienced, unexplainable burning and stinging. You ask yourself is\nthe AODISC worn out? No! Did I overfill the cup? No! Did I\ninadequately rinse off the cleaner? Don't think so! SO, WHAT THE\nHECK CAUSES THIS? Is it possible that despite all the rinsing of the\nlense that it is not possible to remove all the cleaner and that a\nsmall amount of residual cleaner remains on the lens? I've been told\nby the "Customer Service" line at CibaVision that if any cleaner\nremains on the lense surface than the hydrogen peroxide will stick to\nit and this will cause the burning and stinging. Is Miraflow just too\ntough to get off? Cibavision also makes another cleaner called "Daily\nCleaner" in a yellow and white container (yellow and blue outer\npackaging). Is it best to switch to the yellow/white "Daily Cleaner?"\n(I recall trying this before, but found that it couldn't clean the\nlense as well as Miraflow). What about Pliagel? Anyone use this\ncleaner with AOSEPT?\n\n(2) Enzymatic Cleaner Remaining on Lense?: I've been using the\nUltrazyme Enzymatic Cleaner by Allergen which is different from the\nUnizyme system offered by Cibavision. Primarily, the reason for this\nis that the Ultrazyme system allows one to enzymatically clean the\nlense in the AODISC without a separate cleaning procedure. I've\nsuspected that residual enzymatic cleaner could also be possible for\nthe unknown burning/stinging, but I haven't been able to pin it down.\nRecently, I've decided to clean the lenses twice, the day after I\nenzyme the lenses (i.e., I enzyme on Sunday then clean on Monday\nnight). Am I doing this wrong?! Are you supposed to clean the lense\nwith cleaner immediately after enzyming the lense (and, incidentally,\ndisinfection) and before putting in your eye??! (In fact, I tried\nthis the other day and didn't have any problems, but have found that\ncleaning the lense and then rising and then putting directly into your\neye (without disinfecting first) can be potentially irritating).\n\n(3) Sun-burn of Eyes?: Is it possible to sun-burn your eyes? I\nalways sunglasses with proper UVA/UVB/UVC protection but have noticed\nthese burning/stinging sensations more regularly on vacation - where I\nam spending long hours in the sun. Is it possible I have just\n"sun-burned" my eyes?\n\n(4) Other?\n\nSorry, for the long post but I wanted to offer enough information for\nsomeone out there to help. Hopefully, someone has some answers! If\nAOSEPT users have suffered as I have, can someone offer a different\nsystem? (I prefer hydrogen peroxide based b/c of they are\npreservative-free systems rather than some other preservative-filled\nchemical system).\n\nAny AOSEPT users gone to, or tried, the ULTRACARE (Allergen) system\nwith success? I've been considering switching to that system, but\nhave used - and relied on - the AOSEPT system for almost 20 years,\nit's hard to change! ("You can't teach an old dog new tricks" Hah.)\n\nI think most people will agree that AOSEPT is a great system, but if\nthere was some way to remove the burning/stinging in a definitive\nprocedure it would be even better. So, that is what this post is all\nabout. I'd love to hear your experiences with AOSEPT and see if there\nare some common characteristics that can be developed to make the best\nAOSEPT regime. SO, PLEASE CHIME IN WITH YOUR STORIES WITH AOSEPT -\nGOOD OR BAD!\n\nThanks in advance!