best surevue replacement

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by erikred, May 21, 2006.

  1. erikred

    erikred Guest

    It is becoming harder and harder to get surevue lenses (discontinued),
    although there is still plenty of places that advertise them.

    I'm looking for suggestions for replacements. I don't like
    accuvue/advance.
    They break in no time and are much thinner. I'm basically looking
    for a reaonably common brand which has the same or similar material,
    sizes
    and thickness as Surevue.

    Would one of the regulars (Dr. Larry?) care to make a suggestion?
     
    erikred, May 21, 2006
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    CatmanX Guest

    Acuvue advance, ahich has replaced surevue. Any other lens would work
    also.

    grant
     
    CatmanX, May 21, 2006
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  3. erikred

    Neil Brooks Guest

    Dude, your stock is WAY up these days ;-)

    We need s.m.v. trading cards.....

    (I can hear it now "Awwww. You got an Otis. Too bad.")
     
    Neil Brooks, May 21, 2006
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  4. erikred

    Dom Guest

    Well I'm a semi-regular here so hopefully that qualifies me to answer
    your query.

    You don't want the same thickness and material as Surevue - because it's
    an old material and unnecessarily thick (poor oxygen transmission).

    As a replacement I'd suggest O2Optix. It's comfortable, easy to handle,
    has great oxygen transmission, and pricing should be similar.

    Dom
     
    Dom, May 21, 2006
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  5. erikred

    erikred Guest

    Thanks, Dom.

    Does "easy to handle" imply that O2Optix is as rugged as Surevue?

    This is the main quality I am looking for, apart from the usual
    comfort and
    health considerations, of course. I have had very good experience with
    surevue,
    and I take the lenses out every night.
     
    erikred, May 21, 2006
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    LarryDoc Guest

    <BG> I am, in fact, rolling on the floor. Nah......my puppy would eat
    my laptop.

    I've got to unleash the kill file so I can see what Otis, et al are up
    to. Or not.

    Meanwhile, to answer to query:

    Surevue is a 1970's lens. Thick, low oxygen, old, ancient technology.
    Still using a rotary telephone? Time to move on, buddy. See your eye
    care practitioner for a refit. Try something from this century, or at
    least the last decade. Try a few lenses---I'm certain you'll find
    something that suits your needs and perhaps vastly improves your contact
    lens experience.

    LB, O.D.
     
    LarryDoc, May 21, 2006
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  7. Why is "rugged" an admirable quality in a medical device that sits on
    your eye? Do you dry them out to make small ashtrays or hummingbird
    feeders? "Rugged" is for tires, not medical devices. Wear each lens
    14 times, throw it away. Rub each surface gently before inserting in
    the case. Where does the "rugged" part come? "Rugged" could be a
    codeword for "Lenses that I can overwear and keep for months." Condoms
    need to be rugged. Contacts do not.
     
    doctor_my_eye, May 21, 2006
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  8. erikred

    Quick Guest

    ummm, well, for the extremely brief period (1 month?) that
    I tried soft contacts I tore or cracked a bunch of them. Granted
    I was not extremely adept at removing them but I can imagine
    many others might not get much better at it than I was. Things
    like the Acuvues are extremely flimsy and hard to handle
    (although the most comfortable ones I tried). The Ciba's and
    Cooper's were much more "rugged" and easier to handle.

    -Quick
     
    Quick, May 21, 2006
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    Dan Abel Guest


    I had a little problem with this. My OD explained that folding the
    contact flat (in half) would cause it to eventually (really soon) tear.
    It's like any plastic or metal. I was doing this during cleaning. Once
    I stopped doing this, I no longer had any torn contacts.
     
    Dan Abel, May 22, 2006
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  10. erikred

    Quick Guest

    Yea, I was aware of that and I wasn't doing it intentionally.
    The things were so flimsy they would invert and suction
    onto my finger, fold over flat by themselves when I was
    trying to determine if they were inside out in my palm,
    fold flat when I was removing them using the pinch
    technique (yes I only "pinched" from the very edges
    starting on my eyeball on either side of the contacts),
    etc., etc. The CIBA's and Cooper's were thicker, stiffer,
    much easier to handle and I destroyed them much less
    frequently. Fortunately I was on my way to RGPs. These
    are extremely "rugged" in that sense and very much to
    my liking.

    -Quick
     
    Quick, May 22, 2006
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    Dom Guest


    If by 'rugged' you mean 'not thin & flimsy' then O2Optix are rugged.
    They're not the only good lens out there but they are one of the few
    best currently available in my opinion.

    Other options to consider are daily disposables, which don't need
    cleaning or disinfection and so are extremely hygienic and convenient.

    Dom
     
    Dom, May 22, 2006
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  12. erikred

    erikred Guest

    Hi again to all,

    I just wanted to thank everyone that offered advice and experiences in
    response to my question. I think my eye care provider tends to
    prescribe J&J, and it was very helpful to hear about some of the
    alternatives.

    A last word about ruggedness: Just as ruggedness can be doublespeak for
    over-wearable,
    comfortable can be marketing doublespeak for "flimsy and hence good for
    business".
    My experience with Accuvue Advance is that they would quite often
    develop nicks and tears
    within 1-2 days, and that is in my opinion not good enough for a 7day
    lens.

    Erik Red
     
    erikred, Jun 2, 2006
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  13. erikred

    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    As one who fits and sells contact lenses of all types, I have not seen
    any evidence that the Acuvue Advance has an abnormally high failure
    rate, and could not disagree more with your statement. In stating
    this, let me also say that it is not typically my lens of first choice
    for completely different reasons, nor do I have any financial incentive
    to defend Acuvue lenses. While comfort and durability are not mutually
    exclusive qualities, they sometimes are. For example, thinner lenses
    are usually more comfortable, but they also tend to tear more easily.
    The Acuvue Advance is not a particularly thin lens, but has a thinned
    edge.

    Rather than blaming the product in this case, you might examine your
    handling technique.

    DrG
     
    Dr. Leukoma, Jun 2, 2006
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