Computer glasses, do I need one?

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by bats, Nov 30, 2006.

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    bats Guest

    Hi all,

    Just want some of your opinons. I do have glasses for
    short-sightedness. But I only use it when looking at whiteboard or
    during conference where the presentations slides are far. Problem is I
    face computer everyday and since I can see things that are near to me
    clearly, hence I don't wear my glasses. Recently, I was told that I
    need computer glasses.

    If I don't need glasses for driving or reading things that are near to
    me or other things I do, do I need to wear computer glasses?

    If I do need to wear computer glasses, that means I only wear them when
    I'm using computers, right? Question is, will it make me very dependent
    and rely a lot on glasses and eventually I need to wear my glasses all
    the time whereas now I don't even wear it all the time?

    thanks. Hope someone can advise me or in case any of you have the same
    experience as me.
     
    bats, Nov 30, 2006
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    Guest

    Dear Bats,

    Bats> Just want some of your opinons.

    Certainly! Since you can get along with out the minus,
    your distant vision can't be that bad.

    If you want "computer glasses" a simple plus lens,
    just go to the drug store, and try some on.

    Try a +1.5 to +2 and determine if reading
    is comfortable through them.

    The cost about $8, so there is no "expense"
    problem.

    Rather than talking about it -- why
    not just give it a try?

    If you don't like them, don't wear them.

    Best,

    Otis
     
    , Nov 30, 2006
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    Jan Guest

    schreef:
    Otis, shut up, you certainly have no knowledge what so ever about this.

    Dr Judy response is the correct professional one.



    Free to Marcus Porcius Cato's "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"

    In conclusion, I think the " old plus lens therapy junk recovered by
    Otis" should be destroyed.

    Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
     
    Jan, Nov 30, 2006
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    Ann Guest

    What an odd question. If you can see the computer screen clearly then
    why would you bother to get glasses? If you can't then you know you
    need them.

    Ann
     
    Ann, Nov 30, 2006
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  5. Your "advice" strikes me as odd. Odd in that you are deciding whether
    someone can benefit from computer glasses without even knowing what the
    refraction is, what the binocularity status is, what the accommodative
    response is. It's like saying, in another context, if you feel fine,
    why should you take any blood pressure or cholesterol meds? Very odd.

    w.stacy, o.d.
     
    William Stacy, Nov 30, 2006
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    William Stacy replied:
    I want to agree with Bill, and even amplify on it just a touch.

    My situation is fairly well known around here. These days, I'm
    exotropic (my eyes turn out), but you might not notice it to look at
    me. That's because my brain/visual system is expending significant
    energy to overcome this misalignment on its own (using accommodative
    and vergence amplitudes).

    I'm also quite farsighted and have real problems with accommodation
    (and recently acquired ocular surface disorders). So when I tell
    people that "I can't read," there's no understanding of what I could
    possibly mean.

    What I MEAN is: while I can physically read, it causes significant
    fatigue, dizziness, pain, and nausea and--if I don't stop in a very few
    minutes--it "locks up" my accommodative system, altering the alignment
    of my eyes AND making me "pseudomyopic--" artificially nearsighted.

    Case in point: spent five hours helping rearrange a storage space
    yesterday (my whole world was at a distance of less than a few feet for
    the entire time). By the time we were finished, I was too
    "nearsighted" to drive my car home.

    So ... I think Bill Stacy is ab-so-lute-ly right on the money: just
    because a visual task CAN be accomplished by a person does not mean
    that there isn't an underlying problem that might dramatically benefit
    from an optometric (or other) intervention.

    Neil
     
    Neil Brooks, Nov 30, 2006
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    bats Guest

    Reading through all of your answers suddenly make me think.. why do I
    need a computer glasses when I can view the monitor clearly?

    And Dr Judy, Yes, my computer monitor is clear even without glasses.
    That means, I do not need any glasses, do I? Reason why I started this
    topic is, I went to an optical shop and that person there told me that
    I should get a computer glasses since I face computer all the time. In
    fact, my purpose of going there was to ask him to help me check my
    eyesight because after wearing my current glasses (for
    shortsightednes), I suffer headache. I was guessing that perhaps that
    current glasses do not suit me anymore. Then, he started suggesting on
    the computer glasses thing to me. Then, I was thinking (but I wasn't
    sure), do I need a computer glasses because I face computer all the
    time?

    I'm 25 years old, if that helps. I can view my computer monitor
    clearly. I have slight astigmatism (-0.50) and -0.75 of
    shortsightedness. I hope that figures help. I don't really know what
    that figures mean, though. And do I need one computer glasses?

    To those who have answered me earlier, thank you so much. :)
     
    bats, Dec 1, 2006
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    bats Guest

    Oops, when I said headache, it was when I was attending a conference
    and I need to use my current, short-sighted glasses to see the slides
    in front. It's not that I'm wearing my glasses in front of my laptop.
    Sorry for the confusion.
     
    bats, Dec 1, 2006
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    I have this nagging suspicion that you are about to do =just tha=
    nonetheless....
    Oboy.

    But the theory seems to fail all scientific testing, except in
    near-point esophores. Heck, even Otis's OWN tests left him with one
    emmetropic nephew and one myopic niece. Sounds like a crashing failure
    to me EVEN THOUGH n=2 is hardly a test for the books.

    Relaxing accommodative effort is probably a good thing. Interfering
    with the near-vision-triad without expertise HAS CAUSED many an unwary
    soul--who has unwittingly listened to Otis--to become diplopic. It's
    just not as simple as buying OTC readers ... especially for the young,
    or for those in whom binocular status has not been thoroughly
    evaluated.

    Please make all commercially reasonable efforts to close Pandora's Box.
    Mark A's killfile DOES have its limits, after all.

    TYVM,
    Neil
     
    Neil Brooks, Dec 1, 2006
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    Ann Guest

    Ah well, I can see my computer so I certainly won't be taking anyone
    else's advice as to whether I need to wear different glasses to see
    it. Why would I? It's good and clear for me to see and that's what I
    need to do.
     
    Ann, Dec 1, 2006
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    Dan Abel Guest


    When I was young, I didn't see very well. However, I didn't know it.
    Finally, somebody sent me to an optometrist. I got strong myopia
    glasses. I was astounded to find out what the world looked like. I am
    convinced that this lack of correction made a major difference in life,
    like my inability to play sports and my interest in reading.

    I don't know whether the OP needs computer glasses. It doesn't seem
    likely, but if an eye professional suggested it then perhaps it deserves
    a chance.
     
    Dan Abel, Dec 1, 2006
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    bats Guest

    Once again, thanks a lot for all the replies. The distance in between
    my laptop and eyes are around 20 inches. And with that, I can see
    clearly. So, further advice is very much appreciated. Thank you all for
    the time to reply me. :) And by the way, the person who suggested me
    for a computer glasses is not an eyecare professional, he is just one
    of the workers in that optical shop. Because when I further asked him
    questions, he couldn't seem to answer me properly.
     
    bats, Dec 2, 2006
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  13. I'm very happy for you. Just don't go around telling people what they
    should or should not do based on YOUR wonderful experiences...

    w.stacy, o.d.

    ignorance is bliss...
     
    William Stacy, O.D., Dec 2, 2006
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    Ann Guest

    I'll do what I like. You can't really stop people from posting to a
    newsgroup. Everyone knows that everything everyone posts is their own
    opinion. Even what you post needs to be taken with a pinch of salt
    because nobody knows who you are in reality.

    In actual fact in this case I have been proven correct probably
    because I was looking from a more realistic perspective. People in
    the business were looking for something to be wrong instead of looking
    at what was really posted.
     
    Ann, Dec 2, 2006
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  15. Of course you will, and obviously nobody can stop you from posting
    whatever garbage you want. You were not proven correct, although you
    are quite right that people in the business are looking for something to
    be wrong, not "instead" of what was posted. It's what we do. All the
    professions do that. And what I found wrong in your post was the
    blanket statement that if the person didn't feel there was a problem,
    there was necessarily no problem. That's a dangerous approach from a
    health care standpoint, and from a scientific view, is just logically
    incorrect. Nobody knows who I am? Some people do.

    If you want to know who I am, click on http://www.obase.net
     
    William Stacy, O.D., Dec 3, 2006
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    Guest

    Dear Group,

    Judy> Wearing glasses for distance or computer will not make your eye
    lazy or
    worse.

    Otis> I believe that this poster's question was whether wearing
    a mild plus, say +1.5 diopters would have any effect on
    her eyes.

    Otis> What you are saying here is that wearing a mild plus
    for the computer has no effect on the eye at all. And that
    she could get a over-the-counter plus (sold with no restrictions),
    try it out, and, if she likes the "reduced accommodation effort",
    then use it at her own discretion. There is no harm
    to wearing a mild plus since it has no effect on the
    refractive STATE of any eye.

    Best,

    Otis
     
    , Dec 4, 2006
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    A Lieberma Guest

    Dear Group,

    Please disregard Otis's postings. He is not in the medical profession and
    not in any position to give medical advice.

    Thanks!

    Allen
     
    A Lieberma, Dec 4, 2006
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    Guest

    Dear Bill,

    I prefer to review the scientific facts themselves,
    rather than listen to others who always deny them.

    http://www.geocities.com/otisbrown17268/DynamicEye.html

    Prevention is indeed difficult, and depends on the wisdom
    and choice of the person concerned with it.

    Best,

    Otis
     
    , Dec 4, 2006
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    John H. Guest

    Neil,

    The symptoms you report are similiar to mine but appear more severe.
    I'm exotropic, read a a great deal but over the last several years my
    vision has fluctuated so wildly, even in the space of 10 minutes, that
    it drives me crazy with frustration. I've seen several specialists and
    they cannot offer anything except to suggest it is neurologic; though
    like yourself I suspect my problem is compounded by slight corneal
    distortions. Sustained reading also makes me pseudo myopic, just to
    complicate the picture. What I am doing now is wearing an eye patch
    over the exotropic eye during reading but I'm not sure it is having any
    benefit. I started doing this because like yourself I am of the opinion
    that visual processing system is being overwhelmed by the ongoing
    stress. My situation is compounded by having optic nerve damage.

    Aint it a bummer,



    John.
     
    John H., Dec 5, 2006
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    John,

    A couple of questions:

    - how old are you?

    - what's your prescription

    - just how exotropic are you?

    - have you had vision therapy, strabismus surgery, or prisms
    prescribed? Did it/they help?

    - do you have a vertical deviation (i.e., hyper/hypotropia), too?

    - what sort of corneal distortions? Keratoconus?

    - do you wear contacts (RGPs can benefit some people with distorted
    corneas), glasses, or neither?
    Yeah. On a =good= day ;-)
     
    Neil Brooks, Dec 6, 2006
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