Corrective Procedure 06/16/06

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by Roy Starrin, Jun 15, 2006.

  1. Roy Starrin

    Roy Starrin Guest

    After several consultations, much discussion with y'all, and lots of
    prayer, we are going to use Supralase
    ( ) on Friday to correct
    the astigmatism induced by a misplaced LRI which was done to OD
    during cataract surgery 12/05.
    Resultant current OD vision +0.75/-3.00/99
    When I feel like getting back at the PC over the weekend, will cut
    y'all in on how it went.
    Thanks again for your support
    Roy Starrin, Jun 15, 2006
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    Best of luck, Roy. Not an easy decision, I'm sure.
    Neil Brooks, Jun 15, 2006
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    odisbrown Guest

    Dear Roy,

    Subject: Supralase

    I might suggest that you explore the possibility
    of using the plus lens to improve your "refractive
    state" RATHER THAN subjecting yourself to
    further surgery.

    The surgery is obviously the cause of your
    vision problems.

    For more information please visit


    odisbrown, Jun 15, 2006
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    Dick Adams Guest

    Fantastic! We understand that SUPRALASET can only be performed
    with the VISX Star IV tracking laser.
    Fine-looking bunch! Say, whatever happened to Smith and Jones?
    Oh, well ...
    Good luck! Hope you can find your way back to your PC. Well, OK,
    I guess -- in any event you have still got your OS.
    Dick Adams, Jun 15, 2006
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    Quick Guest

    You are the 3rd to join this exclusive list so far along the likes of Neil
    You can fix this yourself. Kill file everyone on the list except
    your hero Otis and his foil Aceman and you'll be in great
    shape. Otis, his parrot, and you playing the part of the audience.

    Can I get an AMEN!

    Quick, Jun 16, 2006
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    [somebody, it seems will have to reply to this for the Right Reverend
    to get elucidation....]

    Bash: To engage in harsh, accusatory, threatening criticism.

    - An expression of inquiry that invites or calls for a reply.
    - To put a question to.
    - To examine (a witness, for example) by questioning;
    - To express doubt about; dispute.
    - To analyze; examine.

    So ... Right Reverend ... IF your hero had deigned to answer those who
    *question--* over the course of *years*, perhaps he wouldn't find
    himself being *bashed* quite so much around here.

    Why not be a part of the solution ... instead of the problem. Why not
    encourage Otis Brown to simply answer the damned questions ... fully,
    directly, and completely.


    Otherwise, I am aware of no act of self-aggrandizing machismo more
    profound than to announce on a newsgroup when "somebody has been added
    to one's kill-file."

    Bravo, Big Guy, Bravo!
    Neil Brooks, Jun 16, 2006
  7. I must apologize for my previous post, It was rude to ask someone be kill-filed. Here is the way I see it:

    A . Otis didn't provide any input on this topic.
    B. Otis's wanna-be "Odis" made a post, ( only intent to bash Otis )
    C. It seems the entire purpose of the "Odis" alias is to poke fun at Otis.

    I fully agree that, Otis does seem in the minority with his beleifs on myopia ( among this group ). At least Otis's posts are on topic, and they do contribute a possibly valid solution to for myopia. I haven't seen enough data conclusively disprove his theory. I am living proof that with negative lenses, myopia progressed at the same rate the lens strength was increased.

    It really doesn't matter if Otis can prove or disprove his theory. Many people that have experienced step myopia tend to agree his theory *maybe* valid.

    This group is for sharing information and ideas, yet it seems like several people are ONLY here to bash Otis.

    You are the 3rd to join this exclusive list so far along the likes of Neil
    You can fix this yourself. Kill file everyone on the list except
    your hero Otis and his foil Aceman and you'll be in great
    shape. Otis, his parrot, and you playing the part of the audience.

    Can I get an AMEN!

    Rev Jessie James, Jun 16, 2006
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    Quick Guest

    Well, why don't you consider the group of medical professionals?
    This seems to be a medical issue and not one of faith right?

    Can I get an AMEN!

    That would put Otis in the minority of about 3 relative to the
    majority of tens of thousands.
    Wrong. Not valid. Not even possibly valid, so you can't call
    it a contribution.
    You obviously, intentionally, didn't look. It can't be missed.
    Amazing. I found the same correlation to cutting
    my hair. I kept cutting my hair and my myopia kept
    progressing! It's a miracle!

    Can I get an AMEN!
    Hello? The group is under Sci[ence]. Not religion. You
    may have clicked on the wrong category.
    It's so easy to prey on the distressed isn't it? Pass the
    plate. ($24.99 to cover shipping and handling)

    Can I get an AMEN!
    Yes. By people with qualifications. Usually in the
    medical field "qualified" translates to some sort of
    medical degree. This is not a faith based group.
    It is based on (medical) science.
    It is sort of fruitless isn't it? Now we're getting into
    your realm. Out! Out! demons. Greater forces have
    been summoned (the state of Pensylvania).


    You are the 3rd to join this exclusive list so far along the likes of Neil
    You can fix this yourself. Kill file everyone on the list except
    your hero Otis and his foil Aceman and you'll be in great
    shape. Otis, his parrot, and you playing the part of the audience.

    Can I get an AMEN!

    Quick, Jun 16, 2006
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    Then I guess your grasp of both the scientific method AND logic is no
    stronger than Otis's, huh?

    The questions I ask are direct, logical, rational, coherent, relevant,
    substantive, and important.

    IF Otis had ANY interest in "science" or "objectivity," well then ...
    he'd answer them.

    IF you cared about "truth" or "fact," well then ... you'd LOBBY for him
    to answer them.

    What you call "bashing," I call seeking the truth ... and forcing a
    charlatan to show his hand.

    Po-tay-to ... Po-tah-to.

    Neil Brooks, Jun 17, 2006
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    Roy Starrin Guest

    On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:43:20 GMT, Roy Starrin <>
    wrote about the procedure being used to correct the surgically induced
    astimatism in his right eye :
    Supralase, surface ablation procedure, used Friday a.m. Doc said it
    will take (took) 2X seconds to remove the epitheilum, 9 seconds to
    correct the astigmatism.
    No pain Friday, slept most of the day with pain meds (Good pain meds).
    Doc forceast day 2 (Saturday) would be worst pain day, after that pain
    would ease, (he provided a lesser strength pain med for day 3 on out)
    but that day 3-5 would see slight worsening of vision.
    Pain forcast accurate.
    Woke this morning with no pain. Tossed the pain meds (but be advised
    I take Celebrex and 3900 mg Tylenol daily for arthritis)
    Anyhoo, I can now see better without glasses than I can with glasses
    (lens has been removed from OD side of glasses). The earth is flat,
    and my "reference circle" is round as opposed to being oval as it has
    been since the initial surgery. I find this interresting. Would it
    be because OD is my dominant eye and it is dragging OS along?
    (OS sphere is +0.75) In any case, surgery was specifically to repair
    astigmatism, and not touch the OD sphere (which is also +0.75).
    Will see doctor MWF this week. Surgeon or one of his ODs called each
    night to see how I was doing.
    I have written above with no glasses. Vision is not would I would
    want for ultimate vision, but is surely something good to build on.
    Initial estimate was first refraction attempt at 3 weeks. (It is my
    intent to simply change the OD lens as vision warrants until it is
    fully stabilized)

    Again, thanks for you support
    Roy Starrin, Jun 19, 2006
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    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Jessie,

    Some idiot is posting using the name "Odis" -- and that is fradulent.

    I certainly have no SUGGESTION OR STATEMENT about this
    man's issue -- and have made no post about it.

    I suggest PREVENTION of nearsighetedess ON THE THRESHOLD -- as
    advocated by prevention-minded ODs. See:

    Or, my suggestions can be found at:

    And all I truly suggest is that you be informeded of this PREVENTIVE
    method -- before you start wearing an over-perscribed minus -- and
    develop stair-case myopia from it.

    And this is simply a choice I think you should have.


    otisbrown, Jun 19, 2006
  12. Roy Starrin

    odisbrown Guest

    Dear Mike,

    Subject: stair-case myopia

    Mike> You KNOW it because you read it on the internet?

    Odis> I resent the implication and the "challenge" to my

    As it happens, I KNOW it because I WROTE it
    on the internet.

    Perhaps I should be asking for an apology at this point.


    Psych patient
    odisbrown, Jun 19, 2006
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    Quick Guest

    or $24.95 for shipping and handling.

    Quick, Jun 19, 2006
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    A Lieberman Guest

    Dear Jessie,

    Please disregard Otis's postings. He is not in the medical profession and
    not in any position to give medical advice.

    Thank you!

    A Lieberman, Jun 19, 2006
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