Explanation of some optical effects after cataract?

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by Repeating Rifle, Jan 13, 2004.

  1. I recently had cataract problems and surgery to correct for them. After the
    surgery, I noticed some optical effects that I cannot completely explain. I
    am pretty sure that both optics and eye anatomy are involved. Posting on
    sci.med vision did not produce answers that gave me a satisfactory
    explanation.

    The newly operated eye with an intraocular lens implant produces multiple
    images, maybe six or more, of a small source such as a traffic light at a
    distance or an LED indicator across a room. The darker it gets, the larger
    the pupil and the greater the number of images. It is fairly obvious that
    much of the effect occurs from light entering near the margin of the eye's
    pupil. Blocking off of the pupil with a finger in front of the eye gets rid
    of some of these images. It is as if the cornea was a series of flat
    sections instead of spherical, each providing their own image. That is, it
    does not appear to be something like spherical aberration.

    My ophthalmologist said not to worry. Wait until I don my new glasses. I
    really do not understand how spherical and cylindrical corrections will get
    rid of multiple images. Nevertheless, even before the surgery, I had noticed
    that without glasses, an object like mars looked like a frozen-in-time
    firework star burst. Putting on the glasses merged all these images into a
    single somewhat fuzzy image. At the ime, my glasses did not give complete
    correction.

    Another phenomenon was observed as I looked at numerals on a license plate.
    They would shimmer with slight head motions. I attribute that to a moire
    interaction between relatively transparent but refractive floaters and the
    real image of the license plate formed a few millimeter in front of
    (anterior) to the retina. I do not know if that is the correct explanation.

    Most of my reason for asking is that of intellectual curiosity. Of course,
    if my new glasses do not improve those aspects of my vision, I will take a
    greater subjective interest in what is happening.

    In addition to explantion, I would like to get suggestions on what else to
    observe.

    Bill
     
    Repeating Rifle, Jan 13, 2004
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. Here is my prediction:

    given the fact that your symptoms are clearly symptoms of mental strain,
    it will be VERY DIFFICULT that your new glasses will solve the problem.

    My bet is that they WON'T solve anything.

    All that you can do is just get accustomed and forget the whole thing.

    On the contrary, if you are intelligent (a fact which has to be proved),
    you can really start a great journey into the mysteries of vision and
    understand slowly slowly the root of all of your problems.

    Once you understand that, you will be pushed forward by your very self
    to achieve perfect vision, 20/10 in all situations.

    Perhaps you will stop at 10/10 or 5/10, just to get your driver's
    licence. But this will be a great victory over the wrongdoings of your
    past self and of the wrong science that the professionals here are
    merchandising for their own vested interests.

    --
    Please visit
    http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi
    and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book
    "Perfect Sight Without Glasses"
    and if you are interested, join the group
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 13, 2004
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. <snip>

    I may have mental problems, but compared to you, my mental status is
    perfection indeed. I am not looking for responses of the kind you posted. I
    possible please kill file me.

    Bill
     
    Repeating Rifle, Jan 13, 2004
    #3
  4. A man who thinks of killing has obviously mental problems.
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 14, 2004
    #4
  5. I don't know much about the details of your surgery: what was the
    incision pattern through the cornea? How much of the lens was removed
    and replaced? How was the implant prescription determined?

    Are the effects you described (Mars, license plates) the same, worse
    than, or better than what you observed pre-surgery?
     
    Andrew Resnick, Jan 14, 2004
    #5
  6. Andrew Resnick wrote:


    Mr. Resnick,
    you working at NASA may verify this information: it is said that
    astronauts in space with perfect sight can see the equivalent of a small
    tennis ball at 3,000 meters distance.

    Is this a true statement from NASA?

    thanks.


    --
    Please visit
    http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi
    and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book
    "Perfect Sight Without Glasses"
    and if you are interested, join the group
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 14, 2004
    #6
  7. A 6.5 cm diameter tennis ball will subtend 4.5 arcseconds at 3000 meters.
    I do not know what 20/20 vision is capable of resolving, but I believe
    it is approximately 1 arcminute. Thus, the tennis ball is below the
    resolving power of the eye.

    Given suffient contrast between a bright object and dark background (or
    vice versa), it is possible to detect objects (power lines are a good
    example) that are below the resolution limit.

    The eyeball's shape will change a bit due to lack of bouyancy, but I
    suspect the effect is to degrade optical performance, given the role of
    the brain in vision. Effects during launch and landing can be quite
    severe.
     
    Andrew Resnick, Jan 14, 2004
    #7
  8. I do not know most of these details. The implant is a spherical correction
    although there is significant astimatism. The value chosen was to match the
    other eye which had an implant several years ago.
    It is hard for me to tell because there is no side by side comparison. I am,
    however, pretty sure that the license plate effect is a moire effect.

    Bill
     
    Repeating Rifle, Jan 14, 2004
    #8
  9. Thank you very much indeed.

    --
    Please visit
    http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi
    and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book
    "Perfect Sight Without Glasses"
    and if you are interested, join the group
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 14, 2004
    #9
  10. It might be helpful to know if you had the stitch-less cataract surgery where
    the lens is ultrasonically pulverized and removed with a vacuum thru a tiny self
    healing incision or the one where the larger incision is made and the lens
    pulled out intact. The latter has been known to produce more artifacts. Implant
    precriptions are often derived from either ultrasonic or laser measurements and
    a formula that your surgeon uses based upon past experience. Your doctor should
    be able to provide the answers if you don't know. Also, generally speaking,
    implants do not correct for astigmatism. But research is continuing in this
    area.

    George
     
    George Steber, Jan 15, 2004
    #10

  11. Research is being continued in the wrong direction, unfortunately!
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 15, 2004
    #11
  12. Repeating Rifle

    DonJan Guest

    Go to:

    http://www.surgicaleyes.com/

    I believe that you will find similar problems it the radial
    caritometry (spelling error no doubt) field. Scar tissue changes the
    refractive index of the lens/cornea ... and can cause the effects you
    have observed.

    Donald Janeczko
     
    DonJan, Jan 15, 2004
    #12
  13. That site covers a different subject.

    Changes at the lens or cornea can produce multiple or smeared images. In
    that respect, I wonder how they can form polyhedral surfaces. That is a
    combination of flattened regions.

    As far as moire effects are concerned, they would arise whenever two light
    structures of similar variation are superimposed. An obvious example is
    provided by a window screen and its shadow. I am hypothesizing that my moire
    pattern is formed by overlap of a real image (licence plate) with a index
    varying floater. It is possible that it is a spatial interference between
    the floater and the diffractive interference pattern formed by anomolies in
    the shape of the lens or cornea. I am hoping that someone who *really knows*
    can provide sufficient information to end my speculation. I prefer not to
    have more speculation piled on top of mine.

    Bill
     
    Repeating Rifle, Jan 15, 2004
    #13
  14. Multiple images are a symptom of mental strain.

    I suffered very much of them, expecially after having discarded my
    contact lenses in 1989/90.

    for example, by looking at a black chart with white letters, I do not
    have any multiple image and I can read 15/10.

    the same chart printed in black on white lets me read only 10/10 and I
    have multiple images at the beginning.

    but I am improving day by day.

    --
    Please visit
    http://www.stores.ebay.it/juppiterconsultingrishi
    and you can buy a replica of the Original Dr. Bates book
    "Perfect Sight Without Glasses"
    and if you are interested, join the group
    http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PerfectSight/
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, Jan 15, 2004
    #14
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.