Eye exam OK, got glasses, but my eyes still hurt....!?

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by Todd_Calhoun, Jan 22, 2005.

  1. Todd_Calhoun

    Todd_Calhoun Guest

    Between work and home, I am a heavy computer user and reader. I have been
    for at least the last 6 years. About 6 weeks ago, I would start to get
    terrible eye strain and headaches towards the end of my work day. Sometimes
    I would just go sit in my car at lunch and close my eyes, even though I
    wasn't tired.

    So I decided to bite the bullet and get an eye exam...at LensCrafters. I
    got the deluxe treatment, with dilation, and they determined nothing was
    wrong with my vision. They even did the computer eye exam with the little
    LCD screen that hangs a foot or two from my face.

    The doctor said that my eyes were just getting too worn out from focusing in
    close so much, and wrote a prescription. Of course, by now I couldn't see
    squat because of the dilation, and I ended up spending over $200 for frames
    and lenses, and then a friend looks at my prescription and says that I
    pretty much just got a really expensive pair of reading glasses. I can't
    even read the prescription because of the bad carbon copy, so I have to call

    So I've been using my glasses for two days, and it's not much better. I
    usually wear them for about 30 minutes, then my eyes still get tired, so I
    take them off. I do take more breaks from my computer, and try some "eye
    excercises" from an ergonomics website (focusing far away, then close; stuff
    like that).

    I don't know anyone else who would care about what has been going on, so I
    thought I'd share here, and see if anyone had any thoughts.

    One question: I use a dual monitor setup at work (with two monitors
    side-by-side). And they're both CRT's. Do LCD monitors make a difference?
    Or will my eye-strain be the same?
    Todd_Calhoun, Jan 22, 2005
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    bruin70 Guest

    lcd's make a diff.

    are you viewing your crt at their default settings? i find monitors are
    set too harsh, ie,, too contratsy, too bright(extremes of darks and

    if you are viewing at default, i would first suggest changing the
    settings to your comfort. tweak the brightness lower and the contrast
    as well, to suit your needs. try about 5% less on the contrast to
    start. if it turns too grey or difficult to see crisply, then just work
    with the brightness. set your gamma also. you can google for gamma
    settings as a start.
    bruin70, Jan 22, 2005
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    Mark A Guest

    A good CRT has better resolution and is less hard on the eyes than any LCD.
    Yes, it has to be adjusted properly, and a decent video card is needed (set
    to the appropriate refresh rate).

    CRT's are capable of (and typically have) much higher refresh rates than
    LCD's. However, sometimes they are not set up properly. A decent video card
    should support a refresh rate of at least 75 Hz (which should be good enough
    for most people), and many are capable of 85 Hz or higher.
    Mark A, Jan 22, 2005
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    g.gatti Guest

    Now you have been trapped in the supidiity of corrective lenses.

    It would have been sufficient to learn how to relax your vision BEFORE
    going to the stupid doctor, and it would have been very eady to do it
    BEFORE the stupid man dilated your pupils and all that stupid treatment
    which is still in use after so many have been injured by it.

    Now if you resent your glasses, GOOD SIGN, TRASH THEM!!!

    Start the practice of the rest methods!!!

    Learn to look at the sun!

    Learn to read MICROSCOPIC PRINT!

    Learn how to look at PIXELS on the computer screen instead of whole
    If you are interested, please visit http://TheCentralFixation.com
    g.gatti, Jan 22, 2005
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    bruin70 Guest

    Mark A wrote:
    todd,,,,what mark said about refresh rates. that's another thing. is
    your refresh rate too low? if you look at your monitor PERIPERALLY, it
    will be "blinking" if the refresh rate is not correct.
    bruin70, Jan 22, 2005
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    rfarmer_98 Guest

    I work at a computer 10 hours a day and have extreme eye strain and
    headaches 24/7. I have gone to 32 doctors and they have not found
    anything. Eyes are OK!
    Please let me know if you find anything.
    rfarmer_98, Jan 24, 2005
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    Couple quick questions:

    1) Have you been /tested/ for dry eyes? This would include Schirmer's,
    T-BUT, and rose bengal tests, for example. Quantitative and qualitative

    2) How old are you?

    3) What's your prescription?

    4) Have you had your prescription checked with your eyes dilated? If so,
    what was /that/ prescription?

    The computer being such a factor, dry eyes could do it. It also sounds like
    you're having some form of accommodative dysfunction. You can Google this
    to get additional information. See if it fits.

    You may have seen 32 doctors, but--trust me on this--you haven't found the
    right one. I'm just a patient, not a doctor, but was fighting similar
    battles for 20 years before I figured out what my issues were . . . /then/
    found a doctor to work with me toward a treatment plan.

    Best of luck!

    Neil Brooks, Jan 24, 2005
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    g.gatti Guest

    Dear friend, I have already told you what to do. I copy and paste:

    Start the practice of the rest methods!!!

    Learn to look at the sun!

    Learn to read MICROSCOPIC PRINT!

    Learn how to look at PIXELS on the computer screen instead of whole
    If you are interested, please visit http://TheCentralFixation.com
    g.gatti, Jan 24, 2005
  9. Todd_Calhoun

    g.gatti Guest

    You may have seen 32 doctors, but--trust me on this--you haven't
    found the

    ZERO out of 32.

    Now this profession...
    You continue to say that this profession is not CRIMINAL????????
    g.gatti, Jan 24, 2005
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    rfarmer_98 Guest

    I am 59. had both eye surgery for cataract. I do not have dry eyes. I
    have not been tested when my eyes are dilated. I have had this
    condition since 02/15/04. I am in alot of pain. What would you
    suggest. I live in Southern California. I went to UCI Medical Center.
    No help. My next meeting is with UCLA Jules Stein Eye Center
    rfarmer_98, Jan 24, 2005
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    I can empathize.

    Jules Stein is famously excellent. I've been seen there by Arthur Rosenbaum
    and Joseph Demer. Not sure if they'll be the ones for your issue. I'm in
    San Diego. JSEI would have been one of my first recommendations. A dilated
    exam by a competent ophthalmologist is a critical next step for you. If
    you've complained about eye pain to 32 doctors, it's incredible that this
    hasn't been done.

    My thought, if not dry eye, was accommodative dysfunction. In other words,
    if they put fixed focal implants in when they did your cataract surgery,
    then they would likely have set you up properly for distance vision, but not
    for near. If that's the case, then you would need the proper refractive
    help (reading glasses) for near/intermediate vision (i.e., the computer).
    At 59, you're likely running out of accommodation, the ability to shift your
    focus from distance to near. If you're not using the correct reading
    glasses for computer work, then this /could/ be the problem.

    I know a pretty fair amount about accommodative issues, but--in that
    regard--I'm a Johnny one-note. In other words, I'm glad you're going to
    Jules Stein. Hopefully, what you're experiencing is nothing more serious
    than needing a new prescription. Uveitis can also cause pain in the eyes.
    Here's some basic information about Uveitis:

    Please let us know what they say at JSEI, and check back here to see if any
    of the doc's have more to contribute.


    Neil Brooks, Jan 24, 2005
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    Todd_Calhoun Guest

    Thanks for the input everyone. My monitors had been calibrated for video
    production work, and both have refresh rates of 85hz, with the contrast,
    brightness, and gamma adjusted for video (so they're not very bright). I
    think the problem may be that they are two different sizes of monitor (21"
    and 19"), and they aren't on the same "plane", one is a little slanted. I'm
    going to experiment with different monitor positions. I'll also look into

    I ended up taking the glasses back, and Lenscrafters was very nice about the
    whole thing. In the meantime, I'm taking more frequent eye breaks.

    I'll let you know if I find anything else that works.
    Todd_Calhoun, Jan 28, 2005
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    g.gatti Guest

    Do you have renounced eyeglasses?

    That's a great intelligence you have shown.
    g.gatti, Jan 28, 2005
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