Good vision but eye strain

Discussion in 'Eye-Care' started by Andreas Schmid, Apr 18, 2005.

  1. Hello,

    I am 21 years old and have good vision (I have recently consulted an
    eye-doctor who ran several tests) - I do not require glasses.

    The problem is that I almost immediately experience eye strain when I sit in
    front of a computer screen (although I have a very high-quality,
    high-contrast / high-resolution LCD monitor).

    My siblings experience the same phenomenon - they also have good vision and
    do not wear glasses.

    I regularly (approx. every hour) do eye exercises to relieve the discomfort,
    but it never completely vanishes and becomes stronger during the day.

    When I watch TV for several hours before going to sleep, the eye strain
    remains until the next morning, even though my eyes have had 8+ hours to

    Although it is not a serious problem, it greatly affects my professional
    life (I am a software developer) - it becomes less and less fun to spend
    time in front of computers.

    I do not require any medication, do a lot of sports and eat very healthy -
    and ran out of ideas.

    Any suggestions?


    Andreas Schmid, Apr 18, 2005
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  2. Andreas Schmid

    Neil Brooks Guest

    Short answer? You may be suffering from accommodative strain from the
    protracted near work.

    Did the eye doctor perform a "cycloplegic refraction." In other
    words, did he dilate your eyes before checking your prescription?
    It's quite possible that you're slightly farsighted, but not enough to
    notice with most tasks because your focusing mechanism readily
    compensates. Long-term computer use is a visually demanding task.
    Perhaps you need just a little help.

    Since you say that you were evaluated by an eye doctor to rule out any
    medical issues or other clear pathologies, you may want to consider
    finding a pair of over-the-counter +1.00d reading glasses and using
    them for your near (computer) work for a week or so. If you notice
    any benefit, I'd stay with them for all close work.

    You should probably also try using simple, lubricating eyedrops during
    the day. Most computer users decrease the rate at which they blink,
    increasing dry eye symptoms.

    Best of luck,
    Neil Brooks, Apr 18, 2005
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  3. Thanks for your quick answer, Neil.

    Yes, he dilated my eyes before examining them. He was completely clueless,
    mentioned I was very slightly far-sighted but ruled out that it might be the
    cause of my problems.

    I already use eye-drops and they seem to have a light effect, will use them
    for a number of weeks to see if they really improve the situation. I once
    directed a video camera at my face while I was working to see if I was
    properly blinking - and I was.

    I'll get over-the-counter reading glasses, thanks for the suggestion. Does
    +1.00d allow my eyes to focus far while watching near objects, thereby
    decrease muscle work/tension and eye strain?

    I've never used glasses.

    Andreas Schmid, Apr 18, 2005
  4. Andreas Schmid

    Neil Brooks Guest

    I think we're on to something ;-)
    Off topic, but I wouldn't show that video at dinner parties....
    If I'm understanding your question correctly, then the answer is
    effectively, yes. Technically, the glasses will refract the light
    entering the eye, so that light falls *on*, instead of *behind* your

    Pretty basic stuff, but here are a couple of links to help you
    understand a bit more about farsightedness (hyperopia):
    Welcome to the club. The good news? Not only are there very, very
    stylish frames these days but--if you don't see anything you like
    over-the-counter--it's likely that an optometrist would prescribe
    reading glasses for you, allowing you to have them made in a multitude
    of styles.

    Most of the top-name sunglass manufacturers can make prescription
    glasses with their frames.

    Let us know how this all turns out.

    Neil Brooks, Apr 18, 2005
  5. Andreas Schmid

    The Real Bev Guest

    And at the other end of the price spectrum, the reading glasses sold at
    99-Cents-Only stores are perfectly fine. Although lack of pain is the major
    factor in my choice of frames, the appearance of most of the cheapies is
    perfectly fine too.

    It is just a bicycle. It is not dedication and bugs
    in your teeth and dust and rain and mud. It is not
    madness and harmony and glory and rhythm. It is not
    muscle and flesh and sweat and lycra and wind.
    It is just a bicycle. -- Bianchi
    The Real Bev, Apr 18, 2005
  6. Andreas Schmid

    g.gatti Guest

    Quick answer?
    Which answer???
    CLUELESS, that's the true word for it, they are clueless!!!
    Have you tried to look at the sun?
    Start at dawn, look at it only for 5 or 10 seconds.
    Then repeat at sunset.

    This is wrong and I suggest you to avoid this.

    This is good, you should continue without glasses.
    g.gatti, Apr 18, 2005
  7. Andreas Schmid

    Neil Brooks Guest

    I don't think I need to give you the usual caveats about this

    Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, we assume, or a mother who used crack cocaine
    excessively while pregnant.

    Sad, really. The Internet is all he has left. We humor him because
    we feel sorry for him.
    Neil Brooks, Apr 18, 2005
  8. William Stacy, Apr 18, 2005
  9. Andreas Schmid

    g.gatti Guest

    Wonderful article, the poor boy has been just ejected from the army and
    is in damaged psychic condition, exactly like I have tried to convey in
    the article.

    Four years have passed, I was correct 100%, like I am most of the time.

    For example, you are an idiot, 100% accuracy in this statement!
    g.gatti, Apr 18, 2005
  10. Andreas Schmid

    g.gatti Guest

    Neil Brooks wrote:

    If you had perfect sight and the ability to look at the sun at will and
    libitum, I may take seriously what you say, but since you are suffering
    from imperfect sight since your very childhood and it seems you
    continue to choose to suffer, what value has your opinion?

    I think you are a stupid man.

    What are you doing?

    You continue to trust these ugly doctors, which are clueless (and I am
    not saying this, the readers and posters on this board say this again
    and again!), just to get some silly consolations for your misfortunes!

    Why don't you try to do something positive for your own health?

    Paths are many. Some are very much effective.

    Why don't you try?

    What is preventing you?

    Your stupidity you can drop.

    Why not???
    g.gatti, Apr 18, 2005
  11. Andreas Schmid

    The Real Bev Guest

    I don't. He, like many others, is a waste of oxygen and a drain on the rest
    of us.
    The Real Bev, Apr 18, 2005
  12. Andreas Schmid

    Neil Brooks Guest

    Well . . . well . . . gee, Rishi . . . the honest truth is:

    I *might just try* what you suggest, but the messenger (that's you) is
    just so foul, vile, distasteful, appalling, repulsive, repugnant,
    offensive, disturbed, psychotic, insulting, rude, uncivilized,
    ignorant, maniacal, profane, churlish, scurrilous, vituperative,
    querulous, garrulous, nauseating, and uncouth . . . . that it's hard
    to believe there's any truth at all in the message . . . which is only
    to coincidental . . . because there isn't.

    Maybe with a better messenger . . . more people . . . *any* people . .
    .. *real* people might listen.

    But since it's just you blathering . . . I'll take my chances with the

    Rishi Giovanni Gatti: moron with psycopath rising.

    Ciao bella, baby.
    Neil Brooks, Apr 18, 2005
  13. Andreas Schmid

    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Andreas,

    The short answer -- and you have no other "problems".

    Go to the drug store, and look for some
    postive (magnifing) glasses.

    Try several on -- starging at
    about 1 diopter (focal length of
    one meter). They are low-cost,
    about $10 US.

    Wear them when doing "computer work"
    and see if that "relives" the strain.


    otisbrown, Apr 19, 2005
  14. Andreas Schmid

    A Lieberman Guest

    Dear Andreas,

    Please disregard Otis's response. He is not in the medical profession and
    not in any position to give medical advice.

    Thank you!

    A Lieberman, Apr 19, 2005
  15. Andreas Schmid

    g.gatti Guest

    Is this board restricted to physicians???
    g.gatti, Apr 19, 2005
  16. I think this newsgroup should be moderated by the most active members ...

    Andreas Schmid, Apr 19, 2005
  17. Like most active usenet groups, this is unmoderated. It is non-trivial to
    set up and maintain a moderated newsgroup, and when you do, active
    participation goes way down generally.

    Scott Seidman, Apr 19, 2005
  18. Andreas Schmid

    RM Guest

    Otis, what help can you offer to anyone who wants real eyecare advise?
    Everyone here knows your training is nil and your understanding is miniscule
    and static. Besides, all you did was restate the advise he was given

    PS-- Try using your "spellchecker", or "at least" proofread, your "posts."

    Otis "Engineer" is a zealot who advocates his "plus lens" prevention theory
    without good reason. There is no scientific data to prove what he proposes.
    He would ask that all myopes (=nearsighted persons) go around wearing plus
    reading glasses in hopes that it will eventually reverse their
    nearsightedness. Nevermind that the blurry distance vision that myopes
    complain about is made worse by plus lenses! Nevermind that there is no
    proof for what he claims.

    If you are interested in Otis' approach, I have some other links that you
    might also be interested in:





    For information on killfilling (filtering out the posts of a troll or
    spammer like Otis) see the following link:
    For additional information on handling "trolls", refer to this link:
    RM, Apr 19, 2005
  19. Andreas Schmid

    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Rishi,
    This man is brain-dead.

    On one post, addressed to "William",
    this idiot posted a "warining" to William so
    the he might be "protected".

    It was William Stacy OD. Apparently Allen is such
    an expert that he feels impelled to protect ODs from
    my discussion about preventing nearsighedness.

    Wow! How dumb!


    otisbrown, Apr 19, 2005
  20. Andreas Schmid

    g.gatti Guest


    I would like you to explain better what you mean when you say that your
    doctors are clueless.
    g.gatti, Apr 19, 2005
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