Have Toric lenses advanced past 4 years?

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by Dean C. Harris, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. I have messed up eyes and as a stop gap to LASIK I'd like to give
    contacts another shot.

    Last I was fitted with contacts was 2001 and the doc gave me contacts
    made by CooperVision called Frequency 55 (methafilcon B) Toric.

    The left eye was fine- no probs.

    The right eye was a bit fuzzy though.

    My prescriptions were:

    Left: -4.75 -1.75 x120
    Right: -2.50 -1.75 x70

    Can I get contacts that will give me good vision in both eyes? The
    right eye wasn't too far off.

    Or should I inquire about rigid lenses? Pretty expensive as I recall.


    Dean C. Harris, Nov 22, 2004
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  2. Dean C. Harris

    The Real Bev Guest

    Damn, not all that different from me...
    I have the Frequency 55 Torics and I hate them. Best vision in my right
    eye is 20/30 and in my left eye is 20/40. When they're good, they're
    OK, but out of two six-packs I've had to have the fitter replace 8
    lenses (possibly more, but that's all he has recorded) which were
    absolutely unwearable. Even in the same 6-pack/same lot number they're
    all different.

    The distributor thinks the fitter is pulling a fast one, the fitter
    thinks I am, and Cooper won't answer emails or a snailmail letter to the
    president of the company. I spent $450 (8 attempts at RGP and 6 at
    softies) and I have no recourse whatsoever.

    All I can do is wait a few years for technology to improve and try a
    different fitter. In the meantime I'm just wearing the old lenses.
    Wotthehell, there isn't all that much difference between two months and
    six months, right?

    I'm not at all happy about this, but have no idea what to do except sue
    the fitter, and I don't think it's his fault.

    My prescription:
    Cooper Frequency 55 Toric (methafilcon B)
    8.7 / 14.4
    R +3.50 -1.75x100
    L +5.25 -1.75x80
    I originally wanted RGP multifocals, but I couldn't be fitted. The deal
    was that for $450 he would fit me with RGP multifocals; if he couldn't
    he would either fit me with softies or refund $200. I went with the
    softies. Probably a mistake. I think Cooper quality control and
    customer relations suck badly and I would never buy anything from them
    The Real Bev, Nov 22, 2004
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  3. Dean C. Harris

    LarryDoc Guest

    Toric soft lens designs haven't changed much, but material availability
    has and will continue to do so with the coming availability of silicone
    hydrogel torics (USA, Feb 2005 to start, UK, CA and other countries have
    them now.)

    If what you wrote is your spectacle Rx, one might assume that you should
    get equal or nearly equal vision in both eyes. It's a fitting issue
    and a competent practitioner should be able to get you lenses that work.

    RGP lenses are actually less, not more expensive especially in the long
    term and may or may not be an optical improvement.

    Do you think that excellent vision in a lens you can leave in for a few
    weeks at a time would be a "stop gap to LASIK" or a "stop thinking
    about" to LASIK?

    LarryDoc, Nov 22, 2004
  4. Toric soft lens designs haven't changed much, but material availability
    Is there any advance information as to what prescriptions these toric lens
    will be available in?

    Wayne C.
    TheVisionThing, Nov 22, 2004
  5. Dean C. Harris

    LarryDoc Guest

    Is there any advance information as to what prescriptions these toric lens
    will be available in?

    Wayne C.[/QUOTE]

    B&L Purevison (April 05 USA, UK now) is available up to 1.75 cyl in most
    sphere powers. I don't know for sure about Ciba Optix, but I'd guess
    ..75 and 1.25 at launch, maybe 1.75----but that's a guess.

    LarryDoc, Nov 23, 2004
  6. Hmm. Well, that is actually good to know. Perhaps another brand with
    a better eye doc would help. I still have a few pair in the original
    boxes from 2001. Maybe there is a good pair in there. I didn't give
    them much of a chance.
    What about a diferent brand?
    Maybe I'll look into RGP- though I'm not sure with my astigmatism
    being shaped sorta diagonal anything will work perfect for my right
    Dean C. Harris, Nov 23, 2004
  7. Yeah- I gues "It Depends.". :)
    If I had clear vision from contacts I don't *think* I'd persue Lasik.

    It would depend how well they fitted and how problem free they'd be.

    I do a lot of active things like sky diving, motorcycle riding,
    martial arts, etc...and I recall 10 years ago when Iwas able to wear
    contacts that gave me perfect vision, often during martial arts they'd
    go off center from a lot of sweat or eye movement or something.

    I'd love to find well fitted contacts that gave me great vision.

    A lot of this has to do with a good eye doctor.
    Dean C. Harris, Nov 23, 2004
  8. Dean C. Harris

    The Real Bev Guest

    If they were ALL wrong there would be a rational explanation, but only
    SOME of them were wrong. Dispiriting.
    We were both exhausted -- he couldn't think of anything else to try.
    Perhaps he knew that those were the best I could get. Maybe he only
    handled Cooper. I know the guy got my friend's multi-focal RGPs right
    on the first try, which is why I went to him. Against-the-rule
    astigmatism sucks badly.
    They all slipped down, just hanging from the pupil rather than being
    centered thereon. For 1 second out of 60 (unless I didn't blink or move
    my gaze) vision was excellent both far and near. The softies are no
    comparison, but at least I can MOVE while I wear them :-(
    The Real Bev, Nov 23, 2004
  9. Dean C. Harris

    RM Guest

    I believe that there has been a lot of improvement in soft toric contact
    lenses within the last 4 years.
    1. I believe that the rotational stability has gotten better. Unstable
    fits were the norm a few years back but now I think the situation has
    improved-- try SofLens 66 Toric or Biomedics Toric to begin with.
    2. I believe manufacturing variations have improved as well. It used to be
    that one production lot of soft torics would behave very differently from
    another-- now their is greater consistency.

    Dean, I would avoid considering RGP's given your active lifestyle. They can
    pop out easily during some of the activities you mentioned. Likewise, a
    LASIK flap can easily be peeled back even years after a successful surgery
    if you get a glancing blow to the eye such as can happen in martial arts

    RM, Nov 23, 2004
  10. No gettin' punched here. I do Aikido- grappling/throwing/joint locks.

    LASIK is a big decision- I've been following it since '98.

    I'll see if I can get some contacts that actually fit. :)
    Dean C. Harris, Nov 23, 2004
  11. Dean C. Harris

    The Real Bev Guest

    At best, when I gaze downward for more than a few seconds I have to push
    on my eyelids to bring them back to where they belong.
    One example (well, two) isn't statistically valid, but in the 2 6-packs
    I bought there was LOTS of variation, such that at least 8 out of 12 had
    to be replaced.
    Unfortunately, it's way easier to find the other kind.

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    The Real Bev, Nov 24, 2004
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