Is Opti-Clean necessary for Oasys contacts?

Discussion in 'Contact Lenses' started by crb, Jan 25, 2006.

  1. crb

    crb Guest

    I'm using Renu with Oasys and it seems OK.

    Why is Opti recommended and what happens
    if I don't want to spend the extra money for it?
     
    crb, Jan 25, 2006
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    p.clarkii Guest

    Alcon, the makers of Optifree, did some additional testing on the
    efficacy of their cleaning solution using silicon hydrogel (sihi)
    lenses (like Oasys). the testing was submitted and approved to the
    FDA. this allows them to make stronger claims, and gives them an
    ability to market strongly. the makers of the sihi lenses also have
    more certainty about the performance of that solution with their lenses
    so they may recommend it.

    Bausch and Lomb, who makes Renu, has done in house testing to show that
    their product also works with sihi lenses. only it was not included in
    their original FDA submission.

    does that mean that Optifree is better than renu? probably not. IMHO
    any of the solutions including most of the generic ones work equally.
     
    p.clarkii, Jan 25, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    Maybe you want to reread the question , it was about Opti-Clean, a cleaner
    and quit different from the all-in one solution OptiFree.
     
    Guest, Jan 25, 2006
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    LarryDoc Guest

    If you are using your lenses for daily use and find that they require
    better cleaning than that which occurs using Renu (when used with a
    rub/rinse/store protocol), then you might need a separate cleaner like
    Opti-Clean. I would use that along with Opti-Free for overnight
    disinfection and not mix the products from the two companies.

    BTW, make sure you are using the latest version of the products that say
    "for use with silicone hydrogel lenses" The older versions of Renu and
    Opti-Free are not the best choice with those lenses.

    LB, O.D.
     
    LarryDoc, Jan 26, 2006
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    Dick Adams Guest

    Certainly I know nothing about fancy contacts, but I would like to make
    a suggestion.

    When yours get ready for disposal, test them for cleaning with ordinary
    cleaners, like Joy, for instance. Maybe some dilute isopropyl alcohol, though
    that does not seem to be a good idea to me. Tears are pretty close to
    isotonic saline, as far as ionic strength is concerned, so .85 per cent salt
    would be a good candidate for the bulk of a cleaning solution. That could
    be boiled to reasonably assure sterility. After cleaning, soaking in the saline
    overnight should remove traces of detergent, alcohol, whatever.

    I do know something about after-market scams. They are probably responsible
    for a significant fraction of health-care hyperinflation.

    So do your part, and post your results here, so that others can have the
    benefits of your researches. Ignore the commentaries of the experts who
    know what is best for you without having the slightest idea about the ingredients
    of the products, which the manufacturers induce them, by perks, markups, and
    other subterfuges, to recommend.

    My best advice -- stick to simple eyeglasses so long as you are able, then
    simple bifocals (with line) when the time comes. Avoid pitches for hard- and
    antireflective coatings. Old peoples' reading/computer glasses are best as
    single-vision. Single-vision reading/computer glasses might be good for
    younger people if they sense eyestrain or worry about eye-glass related
    progressive myopia. But then again, they might not. But cheap to try, if
    you don't mind gambling on Internet sellers and can do simple arithmetic
    on the prescription numbers.

    On the other hand, my wife recommends that you spend as much as possible
    on your eyeglasses, because that way you will be assured that your vision
    will be as good as modern science can provide, and that it will not be
    compromised by shoddy merchandise and reckless fitting.
     
    Dick Adams, Jan 27, 2006
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    Quick Guest

    How's your bottle doing in the closet? Anything growing
    yet? I can see further savings here. Make your own saline,
    store it in a closet, and when things start to grow in it you
    can sell it to Ace.

    -Quick
     
    Quick, Jan 27, 2006
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    Dick Adams Guest

    It's good for several years. After that, spontaneous generation
    takes over, and life starts evolving anew. Years later, one might
    find Osama bL in one's closet, or King Kong -- who knows?
    Ace wouldn't buy anything from me because, as far as he knows,
    I am not a doctor.
     
    Dick Adams, Jan 27, 2006
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    Dan Abel Guest


    I've always worn pretty plain ones. They worked fine for me.


    People who make no money one way or the other strongly recommend against
    making your own cleaning and saline solutions.


    Won't argue with you, in general. However, the cost of sterile saline
    and contact cleaners is negligible, over time.


    Everybody I know, including myself, buys these things at the drugstore,
    the supermarket or the chain store (I bought most at Costco). If you
    wear standard contacts, you can buy them cheaper at Costco than the
    doctor can buy them from the wholesaler (my brother was in the business,
    but I don't know if it is still true).

    My best advice is not to wear any correction at all. That saves maximum
    money and hassle. On the other hand, if you need correction, find out
    what works best for you. That may or may not be what works best for
    Dicky.


    You must be quite the pair!
     
    Dan Abel, Jan 27, 2006
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    Quick Guest

    That's OK, neither is the guy currently supplying his mushrooms.

    -Quick
     
    Quick, Jan 27, 2006
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    Dick Adams Guest

    Somebody mentioned here that you had had some extraordinary vision problem.
    But most people choose contacts to be pretty, a few for other reasons, like
    athletic necessity, and a very small minority because their vision cannot be
    adequately corrected in any other way.

    In general, I think, contact lenses are a fancy solution, where eyeglasses would
    do as well, possibly better, and certainly cheaper (well, if all the fancy options can
    be passed by).
    My Dr. recommends Bayer baby aspirin. By the pound, it's probably over 100X as
    expensive, maybe 1000X, as store brand. Well, he probably thinks I can't quarter
    a pill to exactly 81.25 milligrams. Well, he is probably right. But I am working on it.
    Everything, one-by-one, is. But in the end, altogether, the bills get difficult to pay.
    My experience, at Costco, is spending too much money on stuff I didn't need
    by getting things much cheaper in too-big packages. Usually I deal with Walgreens,
    particularly for their specials. But when the time came to get some sodium fluoride
    to make fluoride mouth wash by the gallon, they would not supply it, so I needed
    to go to an independent pharmacy. By the way, the fluoride solution keeps well.
    That is not good advice. But finding a practitioner who can competently perform
    a simple refraction without attempting to interest you in a lot of options that you
    most likely do not need and to diagnose you for conditions you most likely do not
    have, and will never, get, is very difficult these days in the so-called civilized world.
    Aye, mate, there's the rub. There have been many proposals for what is best for
    me. I have always favored the one that leads to the best corrected visual acuity.
    But frequently I have been in the minority in that view.
    Some people may prefer to have their vision a bit blurry.
     
    Dick Adams, Jan 27, 2006
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    Dan Abel Guest


    I did need contacts, and glasses were a poor second. I no longer need
    to wear contacts, and I don't. Mine is a sample size of one, so I would
    be interested in hearing from those who have a larger sample size. Do
    people in fact get them to look pretty? I know a lot of guys who wear
    contacts, and I doubt that many of them wear the contacts to improve
    their looks. I haven't asked, though.


    My doctor recommends baby aspirin for me. He doesn't specify a brand.
    Those little aspirin are big business. Do you have some numbers here?
    From the last few years? Walgreens is selling Bayer baby aspirin for
    US$.04, and a generic on sale for US$.02:

    http://www.walgreens.com/store/productlist.jsp?CATID=100072&navAction=pus
    h&navCount=12&selectedBrand=&page=2&orderBy=

    I pay US$2.75 for a bottle of 400 at Costco, generic. They have Bayer
    baby for US$10.99 for 365.

    It is if you don't need correction.

    I've had pretty good experiences. Sorry about yours.
     
    Dan Abel, Jan 27, 2006
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    JeffWise Guest

    Can we get back on point.
    What is the best commercially sold solution for maintaining Oasys contacts
    lenses. I have seen some positive information on a new solution from Alcon
    called Opti-Replenish, but have not had any experience with it.
     
    JeffWise, Jan 27, 2006
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    As a high hyperope, contact lenses offer far better optics for me than
    glasses, including peripheral vision ... largely absent with glasses.

    For hyperopes, contact lenses stimulate less accommodation than do
    eyeglasses (critical for me).

    Contact lenses act as a corneal bandage to help ameliorate the effects
    of my dry eyes.

    Contact lenses allow me to wear close-fitting, wraparound sunglasses
    to battle the elements outdoors. With a high Rx, getting a
    prescription pair to do that is well nigh impossible.
     
    Neil Brooks, Jan 28, 2006
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    Dick Adams Guest

    In this particular subculture. *accommodation* seems to mean something
    other than I thought it to mean. Here it is presented as an undesirable
    consequence of contact lens use. Elsewhere in these posts it is represented
    as a cause of myopia. Is there any consensus on what the word means.
    My suspicion is that they are generally more irritating than ameliorative.
    But I suppose that once you have started shelling out their cost, it is
    comforting to look for some reasons you might have gone for them.
    I get that too, but with IOL implants (hopefully lower upkeep than contacts).
    Now it's said possible to have accommodating IOL's, but I don't believe that
    either, assuming I know what *accommodating* means.

    Valiantly battling the elements,
     
    Dick Adams, Jan 28, 2006
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