Is There Any Hope for My Dad's Eyes?

Discussion in 'Eye-Care' started by Fred Mann, Aug 17, 2005.

  1. Fred Mann

    Fred Mann Guest

    Hello,
    My Dad has been told he has "incipient cataracts", and that lasik is too
    risky at this point (he could go blind if they attempt lasik). His doctors
    have said that they would feel more comfortable performing the lasik once
    the cataracts have fully formed. (that sounds depressing!!)
    His symptoms include problems with depth perception and occasional double
    images which have gotten gradually worse over the last two years. Also, he
    has the occasional dizzy spell (fairly rare)
    In 1991, he had laser surgery in his right eye to heal a tear (he wasn't
    sure if it was a muscle tear). However, he did not experience these symptoms
    back then, so this may be unrelated. His right eye has been *much* worse
    than his left for a long time, with no depth perception troubles. He wears
    corrective contact lenses, and this has worked fine for many years, until
    recently.
    I am also considering the idea that his depth perception problems may not
    necessarily be related to the incipient cataracts, but may be due to other
    factors (i.e. posture-related inner-ear problem -- just a guess). Any
    thoughts on that?
    I had him try bilberry for a couple months as a cheap and harmless attempt
    to improve symptoms, but that did nothing.
    My Dad likes to play tennis, and this is making it very difficult for him to
    get his exercise. Obviously, he'd love to solve this problem without having
    to wait until the cataracts are fully formed. So, any thoughts on this
    matter would be GREATLY appreciated!!
    Thanks!!!
    Fred
     
    Fred Mann, Aug 17, 2005
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  2. Sure, more than hope. Cataract surgery should be done by a cataract
    specialist (a surgeon who ONLY does cataract surgery), due to the
    problems he has and does have, esp. with what sounds like a retinal
    detachment. He may want to go to a retina specialist first, and if
    everything there is ok, you might even ask the retina doc for the best
    cataract guy/gal in you area.

    Forget lasik, as the other poster said, as there should be no need or
    desire for it before or after cataract surgery.

    I'd also recommend staying away from the multifocus/focusing IOLs.

    w.stacy, o.d.
     
    William Stacy, Aug 18, 2005
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  3. Fred Mann

    Fred Mann Guest

    Thanks for the responses!!
    Is it possible to correct his vision immediately via surgery (or other
    means), or does he have to wait for the cataracts to be fully formed?
    Also, why would cataracts cause a depth perception problem? His eyes have
    certainly been unbalanced for a long time with no such problems. I'm
    concerned that we *may* be on the wrong track with respect to curing his
    symptoms. I spoke to Pete Egoscue today who said he has seen MANY cases of
    depth perception problems in older people solved by postural correction. He
    explained that if the head is sufficiently forward in the posture, then
    depth perception gets out of whack. (Pete Egoscue has about 300 clinics in
    the US -- they do stretching/strengthening programs custom-made to bring
    individuals back into postural "alignment" , to use a cliche term -- i.e.
    the ear is directly over the shoulder and the pelvis is not rotated forward
    and the feet are not splayed out, etc). I think that this is at least
    plausible. I have positive first-hand experience with this type of thing.
    Also, assuming cataracts ARE the problem, how does one find a qualified
    surgeon?
    Thanks again for the warnings about lasik!!!!
    Fred
     
    Fred Mann, Aug 18, 2005
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  4. Fred Mann

    serebel Guest

    I would be very leery about someone saying that they can correct depth
    perception by postural correction. Cataracts cause all sorts of visual
    problems including depth perception difficulty. You do not have to wait
    til the cataracts are fully formed too have them removed. Most people
    wait that long because their insurance won't cover it til they cause
    extreme visual disturbance.

    SErebel
     
    serebel, Aug 18, 2005
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  5. Fred Mann

    Ragnar Guest

    Tell dad that LASIK is not for him. IOLs are for him.. and if he
    wants to spend your inheritance, the Crystalens IOLS are better.
     
    Ragnar, Aug 18, 2005
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  6. Fred Mann

    Ragnar Guest

    Well..specializing in cataracts and doing cataracts exclusively are
    two different things. I would avoid going to a surgeon who does
    cataracts exclusively or any procedure exclusively for that matter.
    Here are two reasons:
    1. If you have a problem with your eyes and you go to a surgeon who
    only does one procedure... that surgeon is sure to perform the
    procedure he does rather than suggest you get the best procedure for
    your condition.
    2. There are mills of every type of surgery. You do not want a
    surgeon that schedules mass amounts of people in queues like a cattle
    drive and performing McProcedure on all of them. I currently have
    a similar problem with a dentist. He overbooks and he doesn't finish
    his work because he runs out of time between patients. I have a few
    teeth in my mouth that are half-finished and I am rapidly losing
    patience with that man. I am probably going to have to look him in
    the eye and tell him to FINISH what he is doing on me and tell his
    other patient to go home. He's a young dentist and trying to do more
    than he is capable of. At least he is young enough that I can get
    him to do what I want for the most part.
     
    Ragnar, Aug 18, 2005
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  7. Nobody has seen any cases of depth perception problems solved by postural
    correction. Anybody who told you that does not deserve to be treating
    patients.
     
    Scott Seidman, Aug 18, 2005
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  8. I do recognize the difference, and can certainly appreciate the fact
    that in many parts of the world you can't find a cataract specialist
    within many miles. But I disagree with your reasoning.
    This doesn't hold water because you are not going to go to a cataract
    specialist unless you have cataracts already diagnosed by your o.d. or
    your general o.m.d. The cataract specialist is not going to do anything
    but the best procedure for that condition. He/she will be performing the
    most up to date procedure available, unlike the general o.m.d.
    Yes you do. The best cataract surgery requires 3 things. A very good
    surgeon with good hands and the innate skill to do the work. A very
    experienced one who does "mass amounts" of the procedures so his/her
    techniques are flawless. And you want it to be done in the latest, best
    equipped surgery center, something that general o.m.d.s may not have
    access to. By the way, cataract specialists do not do the same exact
    procedure on everyone. They are the ones who can and do handle the
    difficult cases that require very special procedures.

    One thing you don't want is a novice or who does one or 2 procedures a
    month, and there are lots of those out there.

    I currently have
    He sounds like an idiot, not a specialist.

    I am probably going to have to look him in
    He is not a specialist, is he... He's a very busy generalist who needs
    an office manager to run his life.

    w.stacy, o.d.
     
    William Stacy, Aug 18, 2005
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  9. As someone said, it is mostly an insurance question. If the surgeon says
    the insurance may not or will not pay until they are worse, you have a
    financial decision to make. In the scheme of things, cataract surgery
    is pretty darn cheap.
    Posture has nothing to do with depth perception. Nothing at all. This
    guy is a charlatan, a well meaning one, perhaps, but a charlatan. Depth
    perception of course is dramatically affected any time one eye sees
    better than the other. All you have to do (if your eyes are normal) is
    cover one eye to see what happens to your depth. You can assume any
    postural position you want and your depth will not be affected at all.

    (Pete Egoscue has about 300 clinics in
    A very successful charlatan indeed.

    w.stacy, o.d.
     
    William Stacy, Aug 18, 2005
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  10. Fred Mann

    Sandy Guest

    Christopher, once you said that you were going to participate in this
    group as long as I do.

    http://groups.google.com/group/alt....e=UTF-8&group=alt.lasik-eyes#471436ff312c0d8a

    If I quit, would you?

    I'm concerned about you. If you had a job, you could pay for your
    dental work, and your dentist would gladly finish it, or may be you
    could even go to an experienced dentist and the work would be done
    right.

    Deal? I quit, you quit. Let me know.
     
    Sandy, Aug 18, 2005
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  11. Fred Mann

    Neil Brooks Guest

    Feel free not to cross-post this to s.m.v. We have enough petty bs
    without adding this one.

    Thanks,

    The Peanut Gallery
     
    Neil Brooks, Aug 18, 2005
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  12. Fred Mann

    serebel Guest

    I think Mark has the right idea here. Who would want to wait till you
    can't see in order to have a surgery that you're going to need anyway?
    To me, that's just needless suffering.

    SErebel
     
    serebel, Aug 21, 2005
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