Lenscrafters' employee damaged my glasses during adjustment

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by far2, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. far2

    far2 Guest

    Hello.
    Today, after noticing that my spectacle frame was somewhat loose I
    decided to visit Lenscrafters for an adjustment. Needless to mention,
    the frame and lenses were purchased a little over a year ago at
    Lenscrafters.
    One of the emplyees (who I later learned was a general manager of the
    store) said he would take care of that. As you know, before bending a
    plastic frame, they need to heat the worked on element. Unfortunately,
    the person performing this adjustment, seemed to be quite in rush and
    doing two things at a time. He put the frame on the heating instrument
    for a little (in my opinion) too long.
    The result of frame adjustment wasn't fully satisfactory, but it seemed
    better than before the adjustment.
    After walking out of the store I quickly learned that the left lens has
    been damaged - more precisedly, the upper half of the lens was full of
    visible 'cracks' on the surface, that looked as if you heated a plastic
    bag.
    The lenses are hi index 1.67 plastic with an A/R coating. I am sure he
    overheated the lens, which in turn created those cracks, making looking
    through the lens almost impossible.
    I immediately returned to the store demanding a consultation with the
    manager. At this point I learned that the manager was the person who
    damaged my lens. I informed the person at the front desk that one of
    the lenses has been damaged by that guy. She took the glasses to the
    back office to consult with another emplyee. After returning she
    informed me they would replace the damaged lens, but that would take
    two weeks.
    That seemed ridiculous to me - I came to the store just for an
    adjustment, and here, suddenly, some guy damages my glasses. Two weeks
    - I thought - is an extremely long period of time, especially that I
    dont have a spare pair of glasses I could use, so I demanded an
    expedited service. They refused and said it will take two weeks. [Btw
    my prescription is quite strong -9.5 and -6.5].
    Nobody said they were sorry, nobody apologized for the incovenience.
    They said I could go to lenscrafters.com and find a number I can call
    to file a complaint.
    So now, with my eyes two inches from the computer screen, I am asking
    what sould I do. How I am going to study (I am a university student),
    how am I going to work...
    Should I file a lawsuit in the tort low for damages caused by en
    employee's negligence? What else could I do.

    Since my right eye vision is very low, I wasn't able to drive, so my
    girlfriend took me home.

    Every advice of suggestion will be greatly appreciated.

    Eugene
     
    far2, Sep 10, 2005
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  2. far2

    far2 Guest

    I have not threatened them with a lawsuit at the time of the incident
    or any time thereafter. In my belief, the guy working on the
    adjustment, missed the boat by trying to hide the fact he damaged
    lenses, not by not apologizing. I don't expect apology - I expect a
    proper service that I had paid for.
    I realized now that it took him unreasonably long time to attempt to
    clean the cracks - unfortunately it wasn't fixable. He never mentioned
    what happed.
    What is your point in saying that it was a courtesy that they were
    making an adjustment to the frame free of charge? Not even a year has
    passed since I purched the glasses.
    The person doing the adjustment wasn't busy serving other paying
    customers. Notice -that I had also paid for my 'product'. Looks like
    you believe in a philosophy of a market seller: "sell, and do not
    care". And don't service until they buy $500 worth of glasses every 12
    months.

    I suppose they set about providing new lenses because they might have
    realized they just damaged two weeks of my 'normal' functioning - as I
    can't operate normally in damaged glasses in school and at work.

    The injury done - in fact - not as significant as bodily injury;
    nevertheless disturbs my life.
    The net tangible loss will be a sacrificed (lost) income from fork (or
    opportunity cost of my being unable to perform at a normal level), and
    heavily impacted studying ability.

    Try to heavily scratch your glasses, and wear them for two weeks,
    trying to study and work and perhaps then you will understand it more
    clearly. Assume the fact of an incident is being hidden from you.

    In the meantime I have damaged glasses, plenty of stress I am
    experiencing etc. I am not in favor of frivolous lawsuits, but the lack
    of professionalism and human sympathy at that Lenscrafter store was
    just outrageous.
     
    far2, Sep 11, 2005
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  3. far2

    Quick Guest

    He probably didn't even notice it. You said "After walking
    out of the store I quickly learned...". They handed you
    freshly adjusted glasses. I assume you must have looked
    at them, but didn't notice the damage until after walking
    out? If he was "hurried" as you say he probably didn't
    take a lot of time to inspect them closely either.
    You wrote: "Needless to mention, the frame and lenses
    were purchased a little over a year ago at Lenscrafters."
    You wrote: "Unfortunately, the person performing this
    adjustment, seemed to be quite in rush and
    doing two things at a time." Just what was that "other
    thing"?
    Glasses are fairly fragile, can be lost, etc. All these are
    fairly normal occurences. Any time they are worked on
    they can be damaged or broken. I'm strictly a consumer
    and I suspect their liability (and professional fairness)
    wouldn't extend beyond providing a free replacement
    in a normal amount of time.

    If your glasses are critical to your daily function I would
    think it your responsibility to have a backup.

    As far as "professionalism" and human sympathy, they
    are not there for counseling. And yes, I think it would
    be an extremely frivolous lawsuit (and I'm from California
    where we set the bar pretty low...).

    -Quick
     
    Quick, Sep 11, 2005
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  4. far2

    far2 Guest

    BTW Should not they have checked the optical centers of the lenses
    before ordering them for me? I don't want to learn two weeks from now
    that the lenses they will get for me will have some distoreted optical
    centers? They also don't have the frames - how does the process of
    making new lenses look like in this case?
     
    far2, Sep 11, 2005
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  5. far2

    far2 Guest


    He probably didn't even notice it. You said "After walking
    out of the store I quickly learned...". They handed you
    freshly adjusted glasses. I assume you must have looked
    at them, but didn't notice the damage until after walking
    out? If he was "hurried" as you say he probably didn't
    take a lot of time to inspect them closely either.

    -He did notice it, but was try to hide the fact. At first I believed it
    was only a ramaining fluid after he tried to clean the lenses.
    -If he was hurried, he should not have attempted fixing it.

    You wrote: "Needless to mention, the frame and lenses


    were purchased a little over a year ago at Lenscrafters."

    -glasses were purchased less than a year ago. It was my mistake of
    saying a little over a year ago.
    You wrote: "Unfortunately, the person performing this


    adjustment, seemed to be quite in rush and
    doing two things at a time." Just what was that "other
    thing"?

    -Some rush for no reason, or just to go back and chat with others.

    Glasses are fairly fragile, can be lost, etc. All these are
    fairly normal occurences. Any time they are worked on
    they can be damaged or broken. I'm strictly a consumer
    and I suspect their liability (and professional fairness)
    wouldn't extend beyond providing a free replacement
    in a normal amount of time.

    -They are fragile and should be carried carrefuly, not left on the
    heater.

    If your glasses are critical to your daily function I would
    think it your responsibility to have a backup.

    - A reasonable person would not assume the glasses would be damaged
    during adjustment.

    As far as "professionalism" and human sympathy, they
    are not there for counseling. And yes, I think it would
    be an extremely frivolous lawsuit (and I'm from California
    where we set the bar pretty low...).

    - Professionalism in conducting business. Heared of that? Sympathy just
    to say sorry.
     
    far2, Sep 11, 2005
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  6. far2

    Dan Abel Guest


    I'm not a lawyer either, and I'm certainly not an OD (and have no idea
    how eye care works over there). By looking at the URL for the poster,
    it appears that he is posting from Poland. They may not even have small
    claims courts, and the concept of free adjustments may well have a
    different time period than is customary in the US.


    I would have expected a sincere apology. Nobody expects to lose the use
    of their glasses due to a minor adjustment.
     
    Dan Abel, Sep 11, 2005
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  7. far2

    p.clarkii Guest

    if you bought your glasses there then they know the pd.
    they are helping you out. they should have apologized
    but you'll be fine. chill
     
    p.clarkii, Sep 11, 2005
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  8. far2

    far2 Guest

    I currently stay in the U.S.
    I would really appreciate if someone would help me with the question I
    already posted:

    BTW Should not they have checked the optical centers of the lenses
    before ordering them for me? I don't want to learn two weeks from now
    that the lenses they will get for me will have some distoreted optical
    centers? They also don't have the frames - how does the process of
    making new lenses look like in this case?


    Thank you all for all replies.

    Eugene
     
    far2, Sep 11, 2005
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  9. you are probably correct.

    After returning she
    You are asking too much. Even LC can't do those in "about an hour". But
    they could knock out a pair of thick lenses to get you by.

    Ask them to make you a good deal on a temporary standard lens in a cheap
    frame (assuming you don't have a backup pair, which to me is *way*
    ridiculous for you not to have with an Rx like yours).
    You could do that. I would argue that you are negligent not having a
    spare Rx.

    ibid.

    w.stacy, o.d.
     
    William Stacy, Sep 12, 2005
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  10. far2

    Guest Guest

    I would contact that LC again and let them know you are totally
    incapacitated while your glasses are away being made and ask what they can
    do. I would get a consultation with a lawyer if they don't have a
    satisfactory solution. It's funny how 2 weeks can turn into only a few days
    once you mention you are getting a lawyer.

    BTW keep in mind many of the people replying to you in this newsgroup work
    in the opticial industry so they are biased toward supporting their business
    rather than you the customer, of course they wouldn't want to be sued by a
    customer for their own incompetence. You are definitley suffering right now,
    physically and financially, as a result of LC's actions so I would at least
    speak to a lawyer as you have nothing to lose, only LC does. Good luck!

     
    Guest, Sep 13, 2005
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  11. far2

    Quick Guest

    Amazing. You live here in California too right?
    A lawyer will listen and then tell you what their
    fee is. I assume you keep one on retainer.

    Jean (and you?) are suffering. Probably all the
    time. Jean mentioned being in college. It may
    be difficult to show financial damage.

    I am not in the optical, medical, or legal profession.

    -Quick
     
    Quick, Sep 13, 2005
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