Neil Brooks invents delayed adjustable sutures.

Dear Neil,

I understood that you invented delayed
adjustable sutures. See:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.vision/msg/f04fa8ff3ac779b8

Please explain how a man with no medical traning "invents" a medical
technique that is
highly complex and requires the skills of a surgeon?

Have you published papers on your new technique?

Could you supply a published monograph with
yourself and other surgeons that let up to
the delayed suture technique.

I think David Guyton would be interested in how
you did this -- with no medical training.
You might be charged with malpractice.

Has your new method been reviewed by medical people?

How can you do this with no medical background, traning or experience?

Thanks,

 

Unbridled genius, I guess.

I can't supply a published monograph if I never published any papers,
now can I?

Other surgeons? Why don't you ask David Granet? I gave you his phone
number. You seem to be obsessed with his photograph. Dial him up.
I'm sure he'd LOVE to hear from you.....

It's more than likely that GUYTON IS using the method that I proposed.
It's leading-edge among strab surgeons.

Ask David Guyton and/or David Granet. IIRC, they're BOTH medical
people.

Unbridled genius, I guess.

Why don't you ask David Granet how this came to be.

Why don't you EVER TAKE EVEN A SIMPLE STEP TOWARD VALIDATING OR
INVALIDATING A HYPOTHESIS??

Still looking for "gotcha" opportunties, eh, Uncle Otie? You keep on
digging. I'm safe.

That's one of the many luxuries that COMES from BEING honest and
forthcoming.

Wish you could say the same thing....

 

That's one of the many luxuries that COMES from BEING honest and

Which one, Neil? The one that turned you into such an idiot?

Must be one hell of a luxury.

 

Looking up posts from 18 months ago Cletis? Trying to discredit Neil
because he can see what a raving idiot you are and tells people about
it?

You really are the loser we know you to be.

dr grant

 

DID YOU CALL DAVID GRANET (858-534-2020) YET, UNCLE OTIE? I KNOW YOU
HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE. I'LL JUST KEEP FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU ...
YOU KNOW ... TO HELP YOU STAY ORGANIZED.

SO ... DID YOU?

SIMILARLY, DID YOU CHECK TO SEE IF GUYTON IS USING THE DELAYED
ADJUSTABLE SUTURE TECHNIQUE YET, UNCLE OTIE?

DID YOU ASK THEM??

DID YOU ASK HIM YET, UNCLE OTIE??

DON'T WORRY. I'LL KEEP REMINDING YOU UNTIL YOU DO.

 

HEY .... ASSHOLE?

DID YOU ASK DAVID GRANET YET?? WHY SPECULATE (OR INSINUATE) ABOUT
READILY PROVEN ISSUES OF FACT.

WHY NOT JUST CALL DAVID GRANET??

(858) 534-2020

From: Otis's little soapbox @

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/912

OTHER PARTICIPANTS ON THIS FORUM -- PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO
DIRECT THEIR IRE AT /ME/ -- NEED TO LINGER A SHORT WHILE ON ACTIONS
LIKE THIS BY OTIS.

HE POSTED THIS TODAY.

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NeilCred.txt

Subject: Neil Brooks credibility.

While a side-topic, remarks by David Granet -- attacking Alex
Eulenberg about myopia prevention, and Neil Brooks attacking me
for advocating prevention -- produce a "credibility problem"
for Neil Brooks.

We truly must inquire as to Brook's credibility on these
issues.

Here is an example of his claim that he invented the "Delayed
Adjustable Suture", used for strabismus surgery.

You can judge his credibility yourself.

Otis
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I called Granet's number.

Got a recording. End of story.

The ophthamologist (I will NOT identify) "in question" was bemused by
Brooks antics.

Donald Rehm wants NOTHING TO DO WITH NEIL BROOKS.
He will not talk to him, nor will not reply to any comments
and "made up" stories of this inventor of the
slip-suture for strabismus.

If you feel you can "trust" this unknown inventor
of the slip-suture, on ANY TOPIC, continue
talking to him. I am simply fed up with
this jerk.

Otis

 

With or without help?

Or is it ... ? Stay tuned as Otis changes the story below....

But ... I though you got a recording ... and that that was the "end of
story?" You don't seem lucid, Uncle Otie. Please explain.

So ...

- you got a recording, but an unnamed ophthalmologist was "bemused by
my antics?"

- Did you talk to David Granet? Yes or no.

- Did you ask him whether or not delayed adjustable suture technique
was my idea? Yes or no.

- If you DID ask him about this, then what was his answer?

You are a pathologically dishonest, demented old fool.

Maybe quite a few people don't notice that you haven't actually
answered a single direct question, as always, but ... I can ... and
that's enough.

Who said anything about talking to Don Rehm? Nice straw man, Uncle
Otie.

'Twas Alex Eulenberg that verified the absolute truth about Rehm's
statements of the risks of using unprescribed plus lenses. Then Alex,
TOO, lied about THOSE risks. Rehm acknowledged them. Alex denied
them.

Birds of a feather, Uncle Otie?

Gee. I didn't realize there was any dialogue there. Maybe it's
because there wasn't.

You're ... um ... lying again, Uncle Otie. Did you talk with David
Granet, or didn't you? What happened to "the recording?" Did you
simply talk while the recording was playing??

Can even YOU keep track of the truth anymore?

I've NEVER lied on this forum. Have you EVER told the truth?

How well DID plus lens therapy work for your myopic niece, Joyce V.
Benson, Uncle Otie?

Why don't you ever talk about that results of THAT "purely scientific
experiment?"

You're tired of being wrong, having people call you on your lies, and
having somebody ask you to back up all of your erroneous claims.

I don't doubt that.

But ... as I've repeatedly said, and as I've repeatedly shown ...
you're a pathological liar, operating at diminished capacity, and
probably shouldn't be allowed to handle your own financial or legal
affairs. You CERTAINLY shouldn't be meddling in ANYBODY'S MEDICAL
situation.

Seriously.

And ... for the record ... you hurt people BY your lies.

Not me. I'm honest ... and I don't hurt people, and -- ya' know what?
That really DOES make me better than you.

Still waiting for the truth of your attempts to reach Dave Granet,
Uncle Otie.

I'll ... uh ... keep reminding you until you let me know.

Try to remember that I can verify YOUR story with a phone call or
e-mail, so ... please try not to lie.

I know you cannot promise, but ... please just try.

 

OTIS??? WE'RE STILL A LITTLE SHORT ON DETAILS HERE. WOULD YOU MIND
ADDRESSING THE QUESTIONS BELOW??

PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US IN SUSPENSE.

MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR A LITTLE PARABLE ... "THE PRINTER'S SON" OR "THE
AMBULANCE ON ITS WAY TO PICK UP UNCLE OTIE," OR SOMETHING.

WE'RE ON PINS AND NEEDLES WAITING FOR THE ANSWERS HERE.

PLEASE??

 

X-No-Archive:

Neil -- don't worry about it.

If fact, I think you are the ONLY one reading my site:

www.myopiafree.com

You are far more "interested" in this -- than any
layman I know of.

In fact, you are sending more readers to myopiafree
then anyone else has ever done!!!!

Incredible!

 

OTIS??? WE'RE STILL A LITTLE SHORT ON DETAILS HERE. WOULD YOU MIND
ADDRESSING THE QUESTIONS BELOW??

PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US IN SUSPENSE.

MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR A LITTLE PARABLE ... "THE PRINTER'S SON" OR "THE
AMBULANCE ON ITS WAY TO PICK UP UNCLE OTIE," OR SOMETHING.

WE'RE ON PINS AND NEEDLES WAITING FOR THE ANSWERS HERE.

PLEASE??

 

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otis,

out of all your posts in this thread, this statement is the only one
that made any sense to me.

I have to admit I don't understand at all this "alternative identity"
issue that you keep trying to make about Neil Brooks. Do you really
think he is misrepresenting his identity in this forum? Does it
really matter anyway?

I have come to observe Neil's posting style from afar, and I have come
to believe that he may be many things but he is not dishonest,
deceitful, or a liar. i believe that what he says is true. Could it
be that you are just a little too paranoid?

 

Otis, you're a fucking idiot.

I see you posted this crap on your little soapbox again today.

Have you called David Granet yet?

Wouldn't it be better to get to the TRUTH of the matter than it is to
speculate devoid of any facts whatsoever?

I mean ... for YOU it might, but ... a true "man of science" would
want to make that call.

Don't continue to hide in fear. Make the call.

[snip]

 

Dear Neil,

Subject: Brooks> That's one of the many luxuries that COMES from
BEING
honest and forthcoming.

Re: Otis> Please explain how a man with no medical training "invents"
a medical technique that is highly complex and requires the
skills of a surgeon?

Re: Brooks> Unbridled genius, I guess.

Actually, Neil, given the incompetent quality of your
answer, I hardly consider your answers to be "forthcoming".

I would rather judge that they are evasive at best.

I mean, how does a layman, with no medical knowledge
as you state, suddenly get the bright idea that he
"invented" the adjustable suture used in strabismus surgery???


Otis

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Neil Brooks View profile

Newsgroups: sci.med.vision

From: Neil Brooks <>

Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:30:32 -0700

Subject: Re: Neil Brooks invents delayed adjustable sutures.

Otis> Dear Neil,

Otis> I understood that you invented delayed adjustable sutures.
See:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.vision/msg/f04fa8ff3ac
779b8

Otis> Please explain how a man with no medical training "invents"
a medical technique that is highly complex and requires the
skills of a surgeon?

Brooks> Unbridled genius, I guess.

Otis> Have you published papers on your new technique?

Brooks> Nope.

Otis> Could you supply a published monograph with yourself and
other surgeons that let up to the delayed suture technique.

Brooks> I can't supply a published monograph if I never published
any papers, now can I?

Brooks> Other surgeons? Why don't you ask David Granet? I gave
you his phone number. You seem to be obsessed with his
photograph. Dial him up. I'm sure he'd LOVE to hear from
you.....

Otis> I think David Guyton would be interested in how you did this
-- with no medical training. You might be charged with
malpractice.

Brooks> It's more than likely that GUYTON IS using the method that
I proposed. It's leading-edge among strab surgeons.

Otis> Has your new method been reviewed by medical people?

Brooks> Ask David Guyton and/or David Granet. IIRC, they're BOTH
medical people.

Otis> How can you do this with no medical background, training or
experience?

Brooks> Unbridled genius, I guess.

Brooks> Why don't you ask David Granet how this came to be.

Brooks> Why don't you EVER TAKE EVEN A SIMPLE STEP TOWARD
VALIDATING OR INVALIDATING A HYPOTHESIS??

Brooks> Still looking for "gotcha" opportunities, eh, Uncle Otie?
You keep on digging. I'm safe.

Brooks> That's one of the many luxuries that COMES from BEING
honest and forthcoming.

Brooks> Wish you could say the same thing....

Neil D. Brooks

 

Hey, Neil,

Subject: I got a suggestion for you.

I simply post your remarks on Myopiafree -- for
the reader to judge the accuracy of your statements.

And you don't like it??

I have a suggestion.

Stop reading my remarks on Myopiafree, and
I will stop responding on sci.med.vision.

And stop sending me you foul tongue emails.

You are one sick dude.

So:

No more more emails -- or I will post them on
sci.med.vision.

And I will stop responding on sci.med.vision.

Do we have an agreement?

Otis

 

You're a fucking idiot, Otis.

Go call David Granet and ask him ... or ... continue your protracted
session of mental masturbation online.

Your choice.

 

And I have dozens for you.

I don't make deals with the pathologically dishonest and impaired.

As long as you continue to post, I'll continue to make it clear to
EVERYBODY what a fucking idiot you are.

That's my counter-offer.

I can't help it that you're a fucking idiot, Otis.

Apparently, you can't help it either.

That's so ironic that it's funny!

I would WAGER that you would not be declared mentally competent by a
panel of mental health professionals.

Seriously.

You're a fucking idiot, Otis.

Post that ... wherever you like.

I told you the "agreement" that we have: As long as you continue to
post, I'll ensure that EVERYBODY can see you for the fucking idiot you
are.

Vulgarity never hurt anybody.

Otis did.

 

X-No-Archive: Yes

Uncle Otie?

Have you checked out this story with David Granet yet?

If not, why not?

For now, you are continually posting lies and falsehoods about me on
your personal soapbox site.

Wouldn't it be easier just to verify this one for yourself? I mean: I
know that notion is repugnant to you, but ... couldn't you make an
exception ... just this once?

Thanks.

 

X-No-Archive: Yes

Uncle Otie?

Have you checked out this story with David Granet yet?

If not, why not?

For now, you are continually posting lies and falsehoods about me on
your personal soapbox site.

Wouldn't it be easier just to verify this one for yourself? I mean: I
know that notion is repugnant to you, but ... couldn't you make an
exception ... just this once?

Thanks.

 

X-No-Archive: Yes

Otis??

You don't REALLY want this one to slip by unanswered, do you? It
seems like such a strong-side layup. It's a Mulligan. Even YOU can
get to the truth of this one.

Make the call, Uncle Otie. You know it's what your myopic niece, Joy,
would WANT you to do.....