New Invention -- Instrument to measure your refractive STATE

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by otisbrown, Jan 23, 2008.

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    otisbrown Guest

    otisbrown, Jan 23, 2008
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    Zetsu Guest

    It's.. it's.. it's BRILLIANT! INCREDIBLE! GENIUS!!
    This new invention of yours, Otis, could change the very brink of the
    world itself! From this day forth, let us spread the word of a new
    order! Unite, for the time has come!
    Zetsu, Jan 23, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    As long as the above retard endorses it, you're in trouble.
    Guest, Jan 24, 2008
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    otisbrown Guest

    Some people have no engineering of tecnical curiosity.

    In fact I think the organization that is developing this over-all
    concept has
    the best intention in the world.

    We all solve our own problem -- in our own ways.

    otisbrown, Jan 24, 2008
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    I wish you would solve your problem.
    Dr. Leukoma, Jan 24, 2008
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    Dave Bell Guest

    While we're airing our deepest wishes, *I* wish some of the so-called
    experts on here would address perfectly reasonable postings with polite,
    scientific responses, rather than tired ad-hominem attacks.

    The Focometer Otis refers to, and the charitable organization that
    featured and uses it appear to be a great idea. If one of you lot had
    happened to write that posting, there might be disagreement, but it
    would be reasoned discussion.

    But I'm wasting my time writing this, aren't I?
    Dave Bell, Jan 24, 2008
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    It would be TRULY GRAND if we were all Buddhist Monks, perfectly
    capable of absolutely living in the exact moment at all times.

    But we aren't (I'm guessing).

    What we are is humans -- many of us bright and rational, blessed with
    good memories.

    Sorry, Dave, but ... unless you've been one of the ones who's endured
    this insufferable d-bag, for YEARS, while trying to help others or
    learn a bit on your own -- you're just pissing in the wind.

    No disrespect to you intended, but ... you have to be realistic. He's
    sowed a LOT of very bad seeds. It shouldn't shock that a few have
    taken root.

    Any potential "turning of a new leaf" will, and should, be viewed with
    a great deal of skepticism ... at best.
    Neil Brooks, Jan 24, 2008
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    I was not replying to the original post, but to the editorial comment
    by Otis in his subsequent post. I am sorry you felt the need to

    The Focometer was developed by a couple of optometrists, and I assume
    that it works as intended, namely a device for third world countries.
    I am also aware of a device invented for glaucoma patients to monitor
    their own pressures, except that this does not happen in the real

    Personally, I am completely supportive of empowering patients with
    Dr. Leukoma, Jan 24, 2008
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    And there's a 10 mile long trail of your internet posts that backs
    that up :)
    Neil Brooks, Jan 24, 2008
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    Awww, gee whiz. You mean my cover is blown?

    The thing is that I'm not so arrogant that I think I can repair my own
    plumbing, even though I understand physics.

    Dr. Leukoma, Jan 24, 2008
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    I'm fairly sure it takes nothing more than "great personal resolve."

    A pipe wrench helps, too, though.
    Neil Brooks, Jan 24, 2008
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    otisbrown Guest

    L> Personally, I am completely supportive of empowering patients

    Otis> And I am also totally supportive of having the person look at
    the scientific facts themselves -- so they are no led
    astray by the hubris of the majority-opinion.

    otisbrown, Jan 24, 2008
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    But what about the irrationality and deceit of the "second-opinion?"

    Would you inflict THAT on "the person?"

    Fair question.

    Care to answer?

    And ... since you seem to be on furlough from Camp Padded Room ... are
    you ready to answer THESE questions yet?

    Again, you looked like a royal asshole (for years, but ... most
    recently) when that eye doctor came along and proved that I had been
    totally honest, and that you -- as usual -- were full of shit.

    So ... why come back now?
    Neil Brooks, Jan 24, 2008
  14. The man probably has other uses for his pipe apart from wrenching it ...


    .... Good judgment comes from bad experience, and a lot of that comes from
    bad judgment.
    Nicolaas Hawkins, Jan 24, 2008
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    Zetsu Guest

    Wow dudes, for the three months I've been gone from this newsgroup,
    after all this time you guys all still argue like little babies. It's
    the same story, Otis posts, Neil whines, Dave Bell confronts the
    arguers, Neil whines some more, Leukoma whines a little himself, Otis
    starts another topic, and all over again to square one!
    Zetsu, Jan 24, 2008
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    ...and Zetsu flames.

    Nobody is whining here except you. It seems that during the time of
    an occasional full moon, you and your cronies like to venture out for
    a reality check.
    Dr. Leukoma, Jan 24, 2008
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    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Dave,

    Subject: Hostile reaction to ANYTHING I post.

    The Focometer has a number of nice characteristics.

    1. It is easy to use.

    2. You can check your refractive STATE yourself.

    3. You can repeat the measurement -- and TRUST
    the measurement you make -- if you are competent.

    The adverse reaction of the majority-opinion ODs his
    is to attack even a very mild statment.

    If I said the sun is shining, and it is a nice day.

    The would figure out a means to attack that statement.


    otisbrown, Jan 24, 2008
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    That stance is more than your usual dose of sociopathic.

    You seem to have zero ability to realize the harm that you've done
    around here -- both directly and indirectly.

    Chalk up another DSM-IV for Otis.

    I sincerely hope this one's a short furlough.
    Neil Brooks, Jan 24, 2008
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    Zetsu Guest

    Come on peeps! Surely you must get bored of this repetitive cycle?!
    Why don't you have a change in your life by ending the arguments and
    all being friends? You will create a grand justice and benefit to
    yourself! There is more to life than ''!
    Zetsu, Jan 24, 2008
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    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Dave,

    The resident troll (you know who he is) has
    just made my case for me.

    Q. E. D.

    Intelligent discussion about the excellent organization
    that developed the Focometer can no exist
    on for that reason.

    otisbrown, Jan 24, 2008
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