New Invention -- Instrument to measure your refractive STATE

This is great.

http://www.infocusonline.org/focometerfactsheet.html

What do you think? Accurate enough to determine
your refractive STATE?

Otis

 

It's.. it's.. it's BRILLIANT! INCREDIBLE! GENIUS!!
This new invention of yours, Otis, could change the very brink of the
world itself! From this day forth, let us spread the word of a new
order! Unite, for the time has come!
loll

 

As long as the above retard endorses it, you're in trouble.

 

Some people have no engineering of tecnical curiosity.

In fact I think the organization that is developing this over-all
concept has
the best intention in the world.

We all solve our own problem -- in our own ways.

Otis

 

I wish you would solve your problem.

 

While we're airing our deepest wishes, *I* wish some of the so-called
experts on here would address perfectly reasonable postings with polite,
scientific responses, rather than tired ad-hominem attacks.

The Focometer Otis refers to, and the charitable organization that
featured and uses it appear to be a great idea. If one of you lot had
happened to write that posting, there might be disagreement, but it
would be reasoned discussion.

But I'm wasting my time writing this, aren't I?

 

It would be TRULY GRAND if we were all Buddhist Monks, perfectly
capable of absolutely living in the exact moment at all times.

But we aren't (I'm guessing).

What we are is humans -- many of us bright and rational, blessed with
good memories.

Sorry, Dave, but ... unless you've been one of the ones who's endured
this insufferable d-bag, for YEARS, while trying to help others or
learn a bit on your own -- you're just pissing in the wind.

No disrespect to you intended, but ... you have to be realistic. He's
sowed a LOT of very bad seeds. It shouldn't shock that a few have
taken root.

Any potential "turning of a new leaf" will, and should, be viewed with
a great deal of skepticism ... at best.

 

I was not replying to the original post, but to the editorial comment
by Otis in his subsequent post. I am sorry you felt the need to
respond.

The Focometer was developed by a couple of optometrists, and I assume
that it works as intended, namely a device for third world countries.
I am also aware of a device invented for glaucoma patients to monitor
their own pressures, except that this does not happen in the real
world.

Personally, I am completely supportive of empowering patients with
knowledge.

 

And there's a 10 mile long trail of your internet posts that backs
that up

 

Awww, gee whiz. You mean my cover is blown?

The thing is that I'm not so arrogant that I think I can repair my own
plumbing, even though I understand physics.

DrG

 

I'm fairly sure it takes nothing more than "great personal resolve."

A pipe wrench helps, too, though.

 

L> Personally, I am completely supportive of empowering patients
with
knowledge.

Otis> And I am also totally supportive of having the person look at
the scientific facts themselves -- so they are no led
astray by the hubris of the majority-opinion.

Otis

 

But what about the irrationality and deceit of the "second-opinion?"

Would you inflict THAT on "the person?"

Fair question.

Care to answer?

And ... since you seem to be on furlough from Camp Padded Room ... are
you ready to answer THESE questions yet?

http://www.nbeener.com/NDB_OSB_Qs.txt

Again, you looked like a royal asshole (for years, but ... most
recently) when that eye doctor came along and proved that I had been
totally honest, and that you -- as usual -- were full of shit.

So ... why come back now?

 

The man probably has other uses for his pipe apart from wrenching it ...

--
Nicolaas.


.... Good judgment comes from bad experience, and a lot of that comes from
bad judgment.

 

Wow dudes, for the three months I've been gone from this newsgroup,
after all this time you guys all still argue like little babies. It's
the same story, Otis posts, Neil whines, Dave Bell confronts the
arguers, Neil whines some more, Leukoma whines a little himself, Otis
starts another topic, and all over again to square one!

 

...and Zetsu flames.

Nobody is whining here except you. It seems that during the time of
an occasional full moon, you and your cronies like to venture out for
a reality check.

 

Dear Dave,

Subject: Hostile reaction to ANYTHING I post.

The Focometer has a number of nice characteristics.

1. It is easy to use.

2. You can check your refractive STATE yourself.

3. You can repeat the measurement -- and TRUST
the measurement you make -- if you are competent.

The adverse reaction of the majority-opinion ODs his
is to attack even a very mild statment.

If I said the sun is shining, and it is a nice day.

The would figure out a means to attack that statement.

Best,

Otis

 

That stance is more than your usual dose of sociopathic.

You seem to have zero ability to realize the harm that you've done
around here -- both directly and indirectly.

Chalk up another DSM-IV for Otis.

I sincerely hope this one's a short furlough.

 

Come on peeps! Surely you must get bored of this repetitive cycle?!
Why don't you have a change in your life by ending the arguments and
all being friends? You will create a grand justice and benefit to
yourself! There is more to life than 'sci.med.vision'!

 

Dear Dave,

The resident troll (you know who he is) has
just made my case for me.

Q. E. D.

Intelligent discussion about the excellent organization
that developed the Focometer can no exist
on sci.med.vision for that reason.

Otis