No longer sci and no longer med

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by Dr. Leukoma, Dec 24, 2005.

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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    Dr. Leukoma, Dec 24, 2005
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    Well ...

    The signal-to-noise ratio has clearly skyrocketed (I'm certainly
    playing my part), but ... only because the noise has elevated so much.

    I still think there are as many people posting to s.m.v. in search of
    medical advice as ever. It's just easier to lose them in the fog.

    You're a good guy, btw, to be taking such good care of the Dry Eye
    Zone folks....

    Happy Holidays, all!
    Neil Brooks, Dec 24, 2005
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  3. And to you and yours. I've put ace in my do not respond list, along
    with otis (unless of course they pay me).

    w.stacy, o.d.
    William Stacy, Dec 24, 2005
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    Dan Abel Guest

    As a poster on another newsgroup always used to say:

    "Use the force, Luke!"


    Some newsreaders have filters. Some have killfiles. They are the same,
    really. I didn't have this feature for a long time, but I do now.
    Still, almost every newsreader shows the title and author name.

    I don't have rosacea. I hope I never do. Nobody I know has it. I'm
    sure that the guy who posts the exact same message here about it is
    performing a service. I don't read it.

    After you have read a couple of postings from someone, it isn't hard to
    tell if they have good information, need some information or are ding
    dong crackpots.

    We subscribe to three newspapers. I don't read every word. I don't
    know how much a '67 Buick costs, even though the want ads may say.
    Dan Abel, Dec 24, 2005
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    Dear Dan,

    Twelve grand ... and it looks like a bargain.

    Happy Holidays!
    Neil Brooks, Dec 24, 2005
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    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Prevention minded scientists,

    Subject: Some Christmas presents -- for our philosophy
    discussion of the nature of fundamental scientific truth.

    For our group generally:

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity;
    and I'm not sure about the universe."

    Albert Einstein

    For those who suggest "conspiricy" (there is none)

    Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately
    explained by stupidity.

    Hanlon's Razor

    For the majority-opinion ODs -- who can not entertain new
    concepts in pure science.

    "I know that most men ... can seldom accept even the
    simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them
    to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in
    explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to
    others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the very
    fabric of their lives."


    For people who love a fundamental approach to pure science:

    "Atomic Theory and the Description of Nature."

    The task of science is both to extend the range of our
    experience and to reduce it to order, and this task presents
    various aspects inseparable connected with one another. Only by
    experience itself do we come to recognize those laws which grant
    us a comprehensive view of the diversity of phenomena. As our
    knowledge becomes wider, we must even be prepared therefore to
    expect alterations in the point-of-view best suited for the
    ordering of experience.

    Niels Bohr

    And for Ace, of course.

    "The important thing is to not stop questioning. Curiosity
    has its own reason for existing".

    Albert Einstein

    And for everyone -- let use continue to learn together
    about the true nature of the fundamental (and dynamic)
    eye -- as the second-opinion.


    otisbrown, Dec 24, 2005
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    My wish for 2006 if for Otis to take his own advice, listed below.

    Dr. Leukoma, Dec 24, 2005
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    Dan Abel Guest

    Would you really take money from them?

    My OD told me a story. A guy came in, with a one-day disposal contact.
    He had been wearing it for a year. My OD talked to him, but he wouldn't
    listen. My OD decided that if he was that far out of compliance, maybe
    he wouldn't be honest on the witness stand, either. If he got a corneal
    ulcer, he might testify that my OD told him it was OK to wear that lens
    for a year. My OD would present the medical chart as evidence that he
    had warned the patient. The patient would claim that my OD wrote that
    chart right before the trial. No witnesses, one claim against another.
    My OD explained that sometimes juries tend to take the side of the
    patient, if it isn't clear. My OD told the guy he wasn't his patient,
    to leave and don't ever come back. He couldn't afford the guy.

    I can't blame him.
    Dan Abel, Dec 24, 2005
  9. I think that's an extreme case of a common attitude today. The reality
    is that 1. the guy probably won't get and ulcer (believe it or not I
    have a patient who is a pediatric cardiologist who wears 1 days lenses
    30 days at a time, the cheapskate). 2. If he does get an ulcer, if the
    doc's records are properly date/time stamped, he's pretty immune (plus
    if he really thinks something could become an issue, he just has a staff
    person, or better yet, the patient himself) witness his advice against
    it in the record as well. 3. He may be steering the patient into a
    worse situation through abandonment, something he *could* conceivably
    get sued for.

    Anyway, yes, I would take $50 to fill out a survey, even from otis or
    ace. I know they won't sue me and maybe they'd learn something (for a
    change). Remember, you get what you pay for, and they ain't been paying
    for much around these parts lately...

    Anyway, gotta go do some serious celebrating with friends and
    relatives... Merry Christmas to all

    w.stacy, o.d.
    William Stacy, Dec 24, 2005
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