'Nothing Will Change Until People Heal Themselves' - Rishi

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by Zetsu, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. Zetsu

    Zetsu Guest

    By my good friend Rishi, my great inspiration and the one who
    encouraged dissemination of the Original, uncorrupted Bates System, is
    written the following advice to all those who seek to extend the
    truths of Perfect Sight throughout the world.

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    Nothing Will Change Until...

    - Rishi Giovanni Gatti

    Unfortunately, nothing will change until people heals themselves.
    Since there has been much corruption in the original Bates System
    after
    the very death of Bates, the struggle is doubled.
    Original and true seekers have to fight two battles.
    One is against their own self, that tends to procrastinate instead of
    practicing.
    The other is against the bad practice of the professionals, both in
    favour or contrary to Bates.
    So the struggle is difficult.
    It is useless to go on preaching Bates without practicing it and
    getting
    results. By doing so, you will harm both Bates' memory and yourself.
    So be careful when you preach, because you can delude yourself very
    easily.
    I see you are just at the beginning, and so much trouble you get with
    those professionals, stupid people, thinking that they can help you.
    They cannot. Discard them.
    You may find a confirmation in what I am saying if you read Nietzsche,
    Thus sprake Zarathustra, when he had to retire in the mountains, with
    the eagle and the serpent, before coming back to preaching.
    Bates did the same when he forced himself in curing his presbyopia. He
    said "how can I long for a wide acceptance of my theories if I myself
    cannot cure my own imperfect sight?". He took one year to figure out
    what to do, but it seems he got well. After that, he gathered momentum
    and his work changed for the very better.
     
    Zetsu, Mar 14, 2008
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    Neil Brooks Guest

    Rishi never put forth any evidence that anything HE did worked any
    better than .... doing nothing ... either.

    You deserve each other.
     
    Neil Brooks, Mar 14, 2008
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    Zetsu Guest

    For the interest of the reader, here is how the conversation stemmed.
    A debate which included participants: Dr.Judy, Mike Tyner, Kory
    Postma, and Rishi Gatti.

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    (Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 23:26:00 +0200 )
    Newsgruppe: sci.med.vision

    Unfortunately, nothing will change until people heals themselves.
    Since there has been much corruption in the original Bates System
    after
    the very death of Bates, the struggle is doubled.
    Original and true seekers have to fight two battles.
    One is against their own self, that tends to procrastinate instead of
    practicing.
    The other is against the bad practice of the professionals, both in
    favour or contrary to Bates.
    So the struggle is difficult.
    It is useless to go on preaching Bates without practicing it and
    getting
    results. By doing so, you will harm both Bates' memory and yourself.
    So be careful when you preach, because you can delude yourself very
    easily.
    I see you are just at the beginning, and so much trouble you get with
    those professionals, stupid people, thinking that they can help you.
    They cannot. Discard them.
    You may find a confirmation in what I am saying if you read Nietzsche,
    Thus sprake Zarathustra, when he had to retire in the mountains, with
    the eagle and the serpent, before coming back to preaching.
    Bates did the same when he forced himself in curing his presbyopia. He
    said "how can I long for a wide acceptance of my theories if I myself
    cannot cure my own imperfect sight?". He took one year to figure out
    what to do, but it seems he got well. After that, he gathered momentum
    and his work changed for the very better.
    "As surely as any soldier ever died on the field, Dr. Bates gave his
    life for a cause, battling against fate, during many years of
    magnificent struggle, when the unending disappointment finally broke
    in
    hopeless despair. His torch is still burning. There will come some
    other
    battler, who is fit, and will hold it high until the people who are
    sitting in darkness have seen its great light."
    William B. MacCracken, M.D.
    (1937, Berkeley CA)
     
    Zetsu, Mar 15, 2008
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    p.clarkii Guest

    i need to run to the closest toilet so I can wretch. are we gonna go
    through this again? how ridiculous.

    Bate's was a well-meaning clinician who had an hypothesis about the
    cause of ammetropia that wasn't accepted at the time. Now that even
    more basic scientific knowledge has accummulated about the eye, some
    of Bate's ideas are outright ridiculously invalid. But he wasn't
    privy to that knowledge so we can't hold it against him. At least he
    was trying. Nevertheless, regardless of his lack of benefit from the
    amount of scientific research that has accummulated to date, there is
    absolutely NO PROOF that any of his claims work.

    Look folks, there is such a thing as the scientific method. Unless it
    has been followed and the findings validate the hypothesis, and the
    result is consistent and replicateable, then its nothing more than
    conjecture and heresay. The stuff of zealots like you.
     
    p.clarkii, Mar 16, 2008
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