pearle vision - computer glasses - bad lenses!

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by hfs2, Jan 15, 2005.

  1. hfs2

    hfs2 Guest

    I just picked up my pair of Pearle Vision
    "computer" glasses and aaahhh.

    There seems to be 2 small "water marks" in the center sides of
    each lens, a total of 4. One looks like this (ignore the dots,
    I had to insert them to hold the white space. google shifted
    everything over to the side)

    ..___
    ( | ) "supoz to be a circle with line pointed down
    ...|
    ..100

    the other looks like

    ..___
    ( | ) "supoz to be a circle with line pointed down
    ...|
    ...CS

    They create a blurry zone which I was told to ignore.
    But there also seems to be a 'vertical' bump in the lens - both
    of them. As you train you eye on a single spot and move your
    head from side to side, there is a section of the lens that
    puts the spot out of focus. It's like a transision zone that
    I would expect horizontally in a standard bifocal.

    Also, is it possible that there were additional "water marks"
    that would have been in the vertical blur zone? I get the
    impression that they failed to polish something away.

    They will be returned today.

    Questions:

    1. What are these marks for?

    2. What do they mean?

    3. Are they chemically etched or physically placed? I not
    sure if I see a ripple when I reflect light off the lens
    or printing. I'd say ripple as in seeing a dent, but again
    I'm not sure.

    4. Does this plasic material come off a roll? Would explain
    the irregular positions of these marks when comparing the
    two lenses.

    I've had saftey glasses that had even more pronounce marking,
    but the markings were way up in the corner - some place I
    would never see. And they look printed or etched.

    On the computer glasses one lens has this mark just outside what
    I would call the sweet spot. The the markings also seem to
    roam. One lens has the marks near the sweetspot and extreme
    edge, the second lens has the marks both to the outside edges,
    like this plastic came off a roll.
    %0=Ñcnks
     
    hfs2, Jan 15, 2005
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    Dr Judy Guest

    I just picked up my pair of Pearle Vision
    "computer" glasses and aaahhh.

    There seems to be 2 small "water marks" in the center sides of
    each lens, a total of 4. One looks like this (ignore the dots,
    I had to insert them to hold the white space. google shifted
    everything over to the side)

    ..___
    ( | ) "supoz to be a circle with line pointed down
    ...|
    ..100

    the other looks like

    ..___
    ( | ) "supoz to be a circle with line pointed down
    ...|
    ...CS

    They create a blurry zone which I was told to ignore.
    But there also seems to be a 'vertical' bump in the lens - both
    of them. As you train you eye on a single spot and move your
    head from side to side, there is a section of the lens that
    puts the spot out of focus. It's like a transision zone that
    I would expect horizontally in a standard bifocal.

    You have progressive computer glasses. The central part of the lens is set
    at the correct power for computer use; the power increases towards the
    bottom of the lens to the power needed for reading and decreases towards the
    top of the lens to the power needed to view 6ft to 8 ft. You are noticing
    the tranistion zones.

    Progressives do not work if you keep your eye on a single spot and move your
    head from side to side. The rules for using a progressive:
    Point your nose at what you are looking at and move your chin up and down
    until the clear spot is found.

    Also, is it possible that there were additional "water marks"
    that would have been in the vertical blur zone? I get the
    impression that they failed to polish something away.

    They will be returned today.

    Questions:

    1. What are these marks for?

    2. What do they mean?

    The marks are to identify the lens type and progression rate. They are
    etched on all progressives and many single vision lenses and cannot be
    removed. They are used by the edging lab to put the lenes in the correct
    position in the frame and by the dispenser to measure whether the lab
    provided the correct lens in the correct positon. The marks are different on
    the nasal and temporal sides and help to identify right and left lenses
    during edging.

    3. Are they chemically etched or physically placed? I not
    sure if I see a ripple when I reflect light off the lens
    or printing. I'd say ripple as in seeing a dent, but again
    I'm not sure.

    4. Does this plasic material come off a roll? Would explain
    the irregular positions of these marks when comparing the
    two lenses.

    I've had saftey glasses that had even more pronounce marking,
    but the markings were way up in the corner - some place I
    would never see. And they look printed or etched.

    On the computer glasses one lens has this mark just outside what
    I would call the sweet spot. The the markings also seem to
    roam. One lens has the marks near the sweetspot and extreme
    edge, the second lens has the marks both to the outside edges,
    like this plastic came off a roll.

    If you cannot see clearly using the "point nose..." method of positioning
    your head, Pearle may have mismeasured where the centres should be. They
    can check that when you take them in.

    Expect a "sweet spot" and to take some time to learn to use them. If you do
    not adapt after two to three weeks, you may need to get a non progressive
    lens.

    Dr Judy
     
    Dr Judy, Jan 15, 2005
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    Mark A Guest

    0. Do not post on newsgroups using rtf or html. Always use text. Change the
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    1. The etchings are using to identify the progressive lens manufacturer,
    model, and usually lens material. They should be outside the field of
    vision. The should also include a number which represents the reading add
    power.

    Lens also come with markings on them to identify the center (horizontal and
    vertical) of the lens. This is important because the center of the lens must
    be placed at the proper fitting height in the frame for your vision. These
    will wash off. Ask Pearle to remove any remaining markers in the field of
    vision.

    2. Check this link for progressive lens id's suing the etchings on the side
    of the lenses. The document is a few years old, and does not include all
    manufacturers. This may be a problem for Pearle, since they don't use well
    known brands (or make their own).
    http://katzandklein.com/images/LensIdentifierGreen2002.pdf

    4. The lens markings (etched permanently on the sides, and those that wash
    off in the middle) are always in the same place in the round lens, which
    usually is about 75mm - 80 mm before it is cut to place in your frame. When
    the round lens is cut to put in your frame, they may have cut the lenses so
    that it appears the markings are in different places. This may be OK if your
    eye positions are asymmetrical, or it may indicate that the lenses/frame
    were not measured/cut properly, or that the person who did the frame fitting
    on your face made errors (fairly common with progressives).
     
    Mark A, Jan 15, 2005
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  4. hfs2

    hfs2 Guest

    Thank you for the information but this transistion question remain.

    I expected, and can see, the progression top to bottom - it's like a
    regular bifocal.

    What I don't understand is the change I experience moving my head left
    to right. It should not
    be there. It isn't there on anyother pair of glasses I've ever had.
     
    hfs2, Jan 15, 2005
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  5. hfs2

    hfs2 Guest

    Bingo - didn't cut it right. Thanks!
     
    hfs2, Jan 15, 2005
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  6. hfs2

    hfs2 Guest

    I do remember her saying something about distortion and that I would
    experience
    it because (I think she said) because the progressive line went all the
    way across
    the lens. Does that make sense? Had I known about this blur I would
    have just
    got the old regular line. This dead zone is dead center on my left,
    off to the right
    on the other. It's pronounced on the far lens (top).
    Thanks all
    That's it.
     
    hfs2, Jan 15, 2005
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