Pinhole glasses and plus lense

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by Vile, May 4, 2004.

  1. Vile

    Vile Guest

    Well...in my research so far going over everything so far I decided to
    try combining pinhole glasses and plus lenses (+3). I took some black
    construction paper made two holes using a push pin and taped them over
    my +3 glasses. I tried to watch tv and it worked from about 30ft.

    My question is this a good thing for vision improvment down the line?
    Any thoughts?

    I was also wondering which supplements to get for eye healing also.

    BTW I am at -3/-3.25 for vision with glasses. Also trying to research
    ways of relaxing eye strain also. Going to my family practice dr for
    that. Eye strain should be treated like a disease if you ask me. Its
    bullshit we all have to wear glasses if there is a simple way to
    correct this.
     
    Vile, May 4, 2004
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  2. Vile

    LarryDoc Guest

    Perhaps you should try to market your creativity. Write a book. Do a TV
    ad.

    Surely you'll find some gullible people to buy it.

    But don't do it in the USA. The watchful beaurocrats have already banned
    pin-hole glasses scams as, well.....scams.

    --LB

    --
    Dr. Larry Bickford, O.D.
    Family Practice Eye Health & Vision Care

    The Eyecare Connection
    http://www.eyecarecontacts.com
    larrydoc at eye-care-contacts dot com (remove -)
     
    LarryDoc, May 4, 2004
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  3. Vile

    Frostypaw Guest

    You're right - it would be bullshit if there was a simple way to
    correct this.

    But there isn't.

    Still, interesting way of trying to go around it - maybe some quartz
    crystals on your telly would help?
     
    Frostypaw, May 4, 2004
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  4. Vile

    Vile Guest

    I am not trying to scam anybody...I just thought to combine the two
    since I was doing both anyway. And its cheap! $10 for +3 glasses and
    construction paper for .79$ Just wondering what would happen for me
    using them for therapy. I will use them til told otherwise.
     
    Vile, May 4, 2004
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  5. But don't do it in the USA. The watchful beaurocrats have already banned

    Watchful beaurocrats have not the intelligence to ban the idiots like
    those who put minus glasses on the faces of people who suffer
    imperfect sight due to mental strain, and ruin them foreverm why
    should they ban pin-hole glasses and other things?

    The man with creativity, here, should go to the original source of
    vision-healing, that is Dr. W.H. Bates in New York City.

    Please visit http;//TheCentralFixation.com
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, May 4, 2004
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  6. Discard your glasses quickly and get a cure with relaxation methods.
    Even supplements are not needed if you do plenty of exercise in open
    air. The indoor sports won't do, you have to go to the playgrounds and
    let the sun warm you and activate relaxation.

    Please visit http://TheCentralFixation.com
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, May 4, 2004
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  7. (Vile) wrote in @posting.google.com:
    It probably makes you more amusing to look at, if that's what you mean.
    Other than that, pinholes sharpen vision the same way stopping down on a
    camera improves focus. Does nothing for the functioning of the eye, and
    cuts down alot of light.

    Scott
     
    Scott Seidman, May 4, 2004
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  8. Vile

    amni Guest

    Hi,

    If you use much a pinhole glasses, tell us if the vision is crystal clear
    or foggy. I guess it will be foggy because the pinhole
    glass apparently works as sort of bifocal eyeglass where the two
    focal visions are overlapping (on the whole field vision);
    the usual bifocals divide the field vision to two parts
    (each part with different difraction corections).


    I'm not sure it will help you better than plus lens method alone
    (and in any case don't expect getting rid of your eyeglasses,
    the best you can hope is reducing your diopter by 1D or so
    and stopping further myopia progression).

    I think the pinhole method is more irritating then helping because:
    (1) It reduces the rffective illumination,
    (2) It narrows the vision field),
    (3) The vision will be foggy.
     
    amni, May 4, 2004
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  9. Vile

    LarryDoc Guest

    OK. I've got it!

    Treatment plan: While wearing your pinhole set-up, be sure to keep a
    Bates Book evenly centered on the top of your head and gaze longingly at
    the crystal placed atop your television.

    --LB
     
    LarryDoc, May 4, 2004
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  10. Vile

    Vile Guest

    *kicking trolls aside*

    So far its crystal clear (no crystals on tv, only my statue of
    Megatron asshole). So far it makes the tv farther away than it
    appears. So I would think that (assuming plus therapy works) its a
    good way to watch tv or whatever else wearing plus lenses.
     
    Vile, May 4, 2004
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  11. Vile

    Dan Abel Guest


    Frankly, I don't believe that either pinhole glasses or plus lenses for
    myopes will help fix people's vision. However, if plus lenses *did* have
    value, then using a pinhole with them would take that value away, imho.
    What the pinhole does is to take away the need for correction. Thus, the
    plus lenses wouldn't be working as plus lenses, since you would be just
    looking at the tiny section in the middle.
     
    Dan Abel, May 4, 2004
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  12. I'm not sure it will help you better than plus lens method alone
    Plus lenses methods and pinhole methods are false solutions, because
    have nothing to offer to high diseases, either organic or functional.

    The only solution is the treatment based on relaxation devised by
    Greatest Ophthalmologist W. H. Bates (1860-1931).

    For more informations you can reach http://TheCentralFixation.com.
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, May 4, 2004
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  13. It probably makes you more amusing to look at, if that's what you mean.

    This is not exactly true because the eye is not that simple as a
    camera.

    You cannot predict how the eye will react when you put a pinhole or
    partly close your eyes.

    Many people pass from 2/20 to 20/20 just using pinholes, which is
    quite strange for your theory to be true.

    Others don't move from 2/20 even with the pinholes before their eyes.

    So it's not so simple as you think.
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, May 4, 2004
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  14. Vile

    Otis Brown Guest

    (Vile) wrote in message

    Dear Vile,

    Thanks for describing your efforts. Why not check your
    eyes on an eye chart? In room illumination
    and in daylight? That way you have a
    "starting point" from which you can measure
    your improvement.

    If you like to "experiment" then making the
    measurements yourself must be part of it.

    Just my opinion.

    Best,

    Otis
    Engineer
     
    Otis Brown, May 5, 2004
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    Frostypaw Guest

    We don't mean to take the piss - it's just some of the "solutions" to
    sight problems you see on here are farcial, and often posted by a few
    users who set up other accounts so they can have ficticious
    conversations... it does sound very odd, but if you read the group for
    a while you'll see it happen.

    It's crystal clear because the pinhole stops you from needing to
    focus. Just like a pinhole camera it projects a neat image no matter
    what the focussing system is doing - so by using those you are
    negating the plus lens completely.

    As to whether use of a plus lens or eye relaxation will cure your eyes
    - I tried not wearing my glasses and forcing my eyes to change from
    age 10 to 20 odd when I got contacts. Didn't work. Feel free to try,
    but it only works for a very very few people who don't have normal
    myopia but instead a nervous condition causing pseudomyopia from what
    I understand. An opthamologist can tell the difference.

    Or you can believe people who flog their 'wonderful book' on ebay and
    who can't produce a single study that suggests in any way that their
    technique works.

    Your call, but the advice is as stands. Certainly about the pinhole
    bit.
     
    Frostypaw, May 5, 2004
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    (Frostypaw) wrote in
    Ditto!

    DrG
     
    Dr. Leukoma, May 5, 2004
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  17. Vile

    amni Guest

    Hi frostypaw,

    Majority of myopes have substantial component of pseudomyopia.
    It is definitely not rare.
    For young people it is about 20 to 25 percent of the diopter they use.
    I think that this percentage decreases gradually during adulthood,
    I coudn't find exact statistics about the percentage in the internet.

    Of course, someone with -3D cannot expect getting rid of his eygasses
    (or contacts) by reducing his pseudomyopia, the best
    he can hope is to reduce his minus lens (eg, to -2.5D).

    amni
     
    amni, May 5, 2004
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  18. You did not try anything, it's so crystal clear, why do you say you
    tried?

    Forget ophthalmologists, they are of no use (except the very rare ones
    that have been able to cure themselves of imperfect sight without
    glasses).
     
    Rishi Giovanni Gatti, May 5, 2004
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  19. Vile

    LarryDoc Guest

    Then don't try to make it sound like fact. Show us citations and
    references. Sentences like the above are meaningless and unbelievable
    without support.

    -LB

    --
    Dr. Larry Bickford, O.D.
    Family Practice Eye Health & Vision Care

    The Eyecare Connection
    http://www.eyecarecontacts.com
    larrydoc at eye-care-contacts dot com (remove -)
     
    LarryDoc, May 6, 2004
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  20. Vile

    amni Guest

    Hi LarryDoc,

    I'll answer soon. In the meantime I'll throw the ball in your yard
    and ask _you_ to provide the forum visitors the statistics which _you_
    have about the component of pseudomypia among myopes of various ages,
    various working enviroment etc.

    Note that psedomyopia consists at least of spasm of ciliary muscles
    _and_ hysteresis of non muscular tissues (like crystaline lens).

    amni
     
    amni, May 6, 2004
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