Problem with No-Line Bifocals

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by powrwrap, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    Mrs Brainy,
    Without respect to you,

    "computer glasses" is just new marketing twist
    to cell more glasses for population at 30-40.
    Lena
     
    lena102938, Sep 17, 2007
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  2. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    Ms Brainy,
    I am sorry, I wrote:
    Without respect to you,

    It might probably, sounds like I do not respect you.
    At least it sounds not polite.

    I meant that I do not mean your computer glasses.

    Lena.
     
    lena102938, Sep 17, 2007
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  3. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    They do not force
    They give time to use.
    It is not me.

    Forget progressives, it is OK.
    (sorry, still do not think so )

    It is bad
    to fit person which reads perfectly in +3.25
    It is bad to push that person to read in +6,
    never ever checking again.

    And it is even OK, if we think, that the person is 45

    But if pseudo-doctor can do it one time it means that it is the
    system.
    It means that she does the same with children.
     
    lena102938, Sep 17, 2007
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  4. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    Plastic feast
     
    lena102938, Sep 17, 2007
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  5. powrwrap

    Neil Brooks Guest

    X-No-Archive: yes
    Now who are you talking about?

    You're changing the subject and making up a new hypothetical case that
    LACKS any substantive information.
    Uh, it's recommended to have annual eye exams.

    Just because YOU hate eye doctors doesn't mean that others don't get
    evaluated annually, if not more frequently.
    If a person is 45, then it probably IS okay .... that they're 45. I'm
    43. I think THAT's okay, too. Even if I didn't think so, there's
    really nothing to be done about it ... unless you're Otis ... and then
    you'd just lie.

    Google Translate did NOT help me get anything usable out of your last
    sentence.
    I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about ... but ... that
    works out just fine because ... neither do you.
    So ... because an eye doctor puts a high plus prescription on ME ... I
    should assume that the same eye doctor puts a high plus prescription
    on ALL his/her patients?

    Is your "MS Physics" from a mail-order college, by any chance, or from
    Capitol College, like our demented troll, Uncle Otie??
     
    Neil Brooks, Sep 18, 2007
    #25
  6. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    No, My University is the One of the best on the Globe.

    MS CS is from regular University here.
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  7. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    Do not really belive in lens flex at 40.
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  8. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest


    I did not mean that. I did not mean ODs.

    if it is progressives it is better second pair.
    Down glaze on computer with chin up not really excited.
    ..
    Regular reading glasses work sometimes not worse.
    computer-papers-computer
    Even after progressives.
    How to explain that ?
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  9. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    I know,
    You gave +3.5 your error is 0.00
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  10. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest



    I know , i wrote better 2nd pair


    What is your distance ? (if you would like to answer)



    Are you OD ?

    It is not my symptoms
    refractometer avr. +2.5
    some astigmatizm depends from axis
    like sph var. from +2.75 to 2.25 cyl. from -1 to -0.25

    It was like 0 5 years ago ( do not know astigm.)

    L
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  11. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest


    What do you mean ?
    Please, Why?
    Distance + 2
    +1.25 also comfortable.

    age 45

    not my age my is 40.

    Lena.
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  12. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    What do you mean accurate distance prescription ?
    Can it be checked with IVAC ?
    Rule is 0.5 less then refractometer , what she-OD did.
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  13. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    if it is clear at 1.25 why distance should be +2 ?

    why not +1.25

    I understand that it will not be the accurate from the point that you
    asking.

    Right.
    I ' ll go to OD and tell all that.
    Why not the firs when it is not blurry? 1.25
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  14. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    I was thinking how that mmmmm-she
    push him into all the time wearing.

    You explained me that now.
    +2 it is not accurate

    I 'll be not precise now
    by memory:

    the name of that " how much eye can take"
    it covers not only real hyperopia but also latent or facultative (some
    of it under cycloplegia)

    she push him into "how much eye can take "

    All of you say that glasses not spoil vision
    They do spoil
    She did it perfectly.
    Congrats.
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  15. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    I did not expect that it is that way
    Way is perfect.
    It is no going to give failure.
    Scientific.

    Did you watch "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest."

    Whatever he did they were one step upfront.
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  16. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    I am no angry,
    just surprised.
    just surprised with that kind of science.
    just writing brief.

    it is to push
    How Much Eye Can Take
    and the person is still comfortable.

    and in one year when adaptation make the job

    Push again.

    eye will can take now More D


    same with Myopia

    1 year pushing cycle

    adaptation- pushing-adaptation-pushing

    and person is comfortable
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  17. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest

    I did not mean to be unpolite with you.
    You just described how to make the add less
    what from you point of view is good.
    probably.
    but better not push glasses for all time use onto person.
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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  18. powrwrap

    p.clarkii Guest

    this is correct. if all you want is minimal plus power then you will
    have problems reading again very quickly. hyperopia proceeds quickly
    after age 40.
    so now i understand. you are becoming more hyperopic so quickly that
    you are thinking that it is unnatural and that the doctor has done
    something to you to make it happen. no, nature and aging are
    responsible.

    in the beginning, I think what you are saying is indeed correct for
    hyperopia only (not for myopia). if you are given more plus, then
    your eye will take it and love it (the ciliary muscle is tired and
    wants the help). but after a few years it will quit anyway and
    whether the doctor gave you lots of plus in the beginning or only a
    little plus in the beginning, you will end up in the same place.
    certainly you don't think the eye is changing its size or shape
    because of the lenses that are put on it do you? the only difference
    will be that if the doctor gives you minimal plus then you will need
    to get new glasses every year.

    but regardless, in the end your prescription ends up in the same
    place.
     
    p.clarkii, Sep 18, 2007
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  19. powrwrap

    p.clarkii Guest

    its going to happen anyway. aging causes the ciliary muscle to relax
    and when it is entirely relaxed you will end up with the same
    prescription whether or not the doctor pushed the plus on you early or
    whether they held it to minimal changes. the only difference is that
    you will buy lots of pairs of glasses if you prefer only minimal
    increases in plus.
     
    p.clarkii, Sep 18, 2007
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  20. powrwrap

    lena102938 Guest


    It is not - accommodation works.

    I just did not understand How to push 20/20 into all time wearing.

    It is explanation.
     
    lena102938, Sep 18, 2007
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