procedures for student using laser pointer in class without authorization?

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    z Guest

    What procedures should a school follow if an unidentified student
    in a classroom disruptively and dangerously uses a laser pointer
    during a class without authorization from the teacher?

    z, Mar 9, 2005
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    The Real Bev Guest

    Whew, I was about to recommend the death penalty...

    I'd worry more if the rest of the students jumped from their chairs and
    started to chase the spot around the floor.

    Cheers, Bev
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    The Real Bev, Mar 10, 2005
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    Richard Guest

    If you had read the replies to the same post a while back, probably your
    own, you'd not have to ask this again.
    How dangerous is a laser guide point as used on a rifle or handgun?
    How disruptive can it be?
    I'd say it's about as dangerous as a mouse running loose.
    Or using a flashlight.
    Richard, Mar 10, 2005
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    z Guest


    The issue is both safety and liability.

    You can ignore the safety if that's your belief; you can't ignore
    the liability.

    Also, if school administration bans the laser but does not provide
    teachers with procedures for implementing the ban, it is
    in the category of unenforceable rules, and unenforceable rules
    invite disruption in the classroom.

    If you thought about it for a moment, you would not be so smart
    @ssed in your response.
    z, Mar 10, 2005
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    RM Guest

    The issue is both safety and liability.
    As you have been informed, the safety issue is nil. You decide outside of
    this forum what level of punishment if any is appropriate.
    RM, Mar 10, 2005
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    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Friend,
    Subject: Milli-watt pointers

    These lazers are subject to product liability.

    If the "pointer" produced severe risk for the eye -- they
    simply would not be sold.

    The lawsuits would be huge.

    The pointer-lazer (diode) is save under that consideration.

    High-power lazers (commercial) can in fact burn holes
    in you retina. I depends on the power delivered on
    the retina.


    otisbrown, Mar 10, 2005
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    Rowley Guest

    Rowley, Mar 11, 2005
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    Erich Guest

    Isn't that like shoving a pencil into a kids eye, then claiming it
    proves that pencils are too dangerous for the public to use?

    ... Erich
    Erich, Mar 11, 2005
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    Rowley Guest

    I think the debate revolves around the word "use" - using a LP
    to point out some element of of an image projected during a
    powerpoint show isn't going to hurt anyone - same as someone
    using a sharpen pencil to write down notes about the what is
    being presented. Both activities are what each of the products
    were designed for. However, the problem is the "use" of these
    products outside the scope of what they were intended for.
    Pencils are dangerous when used as a weapon. Diesel fuel is a
    very handy thing to use for powering the diesel engines used to
    run school buses - fertilizer works great at making the grass on
    the football field grow better, but if these two products were
    to be used inappropriately - well.. the FBI is most likely going
    to want to talk with you about that.

    Rowley, Mar 11, 2005
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    Nobody is going to "stare" into a laser unless they were absolutely
    forced to do so with they eyelid held open with a speculum. The
    natural reaction would be to immediately avert the gaze from the light
    source. Even white light can be toxic to the retinal photoreceptors if
    sufficiently bright and prolonged. It's a time and intensity function.

    The issue of low power diode laser pointers is one of public perception
    and the subsequent reaction (or more precisely, over-reaction) of the
    parents of other children in the classroom who would subsequently
    descend upon the school administrators like a swarm of mad hornets.

    Dr. Leukoma, Mar 11, 2005
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    Erich Guest

    The incident described was a kid using a laser pointer to disrupt a
    class. High powered lasers can indeed be dangerous, but common laser
    pointers are not a big risk to health. It's just a device for making a
    red spot appear on a surface. Handy for presentations, teasing cats and
    apparently teachers.

    So why are you talking about making bombs from diesel fuel and

    ... Erich
    Erich, Mar 12, 2005
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    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    I don't think that the issue is one of safety, but rather one of
    disruption. The disruption may further be compounded by hordes of
    irate (albeit grossly misinformed) parents descending upon hapless
    school administrators and threats of lawsuits no matter how frivolous.

    Dr. Leukoma, Mar 12, 2005
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