Professional "Bias" -- and how to identify it

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by otisbrown, Mar 28, 2005.

  1. otisbrown

    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Prevention minded friends,

    Subject: Discussion with ODs by Jamie

    It is very important to identify "professional bias". I
    think your remarks are very accurate as to the "standard method" of
    the minus lens -- that has not changed at all in the last 400

    While I can understand the sourse of this "bias", it is also
    very difficult to deal with it.

    At some point we must admit to our own "bias" as well.

    We want BOTH:

    1. Instantly sharp vision from and OD, and

    2. Also -- to maintain clear distant vision through the school
    years -- without any thought or effort on OUR PART.

    As some point, we must sort out how much responsibility "WE"
    might wish to assume for true-prevention. These two goals might
    well be impossible, or profoundly directly contradictory.

    We should also "understand" that you can only be "helped"
    after YOU "clear your mind" and decide what you want in your life.

    You report vision of 20/50 in room illumination, while a
    "refractive status" of -3.5 diopters or so.

    I think you have three choices -- with due respect.

    1. Just quit any thought of vision clearing.

    2. Use the Bates method -- but check your eye-chart to verify
    clearing, and try to work this with your OD -- at
    considerable cost.

    3. Consider very agressive use of the plus, (quit the minus lens
    -- except for driving a car, or when absolutly necessary.)

    Since I consider "3" to be honestly "difficult", you should
    think long and hard about what your goal is.

    Also, I reponded to your thread -- and did not relize that
    you wished to "restrict" my posting. My appologies.

    I think your post are very accurate -- and I have seen this
    type of "pressure" in the "academic community". It does not pay
    to "rock the boat", if you wish to "survive" in that community.




    From: Jamie

    Thanks for all of your replies. Hopefully I will be able to
    continue talking to and corresponding with many other ODs as well
    as I learn more about this field.

    One thing came to mind while reading your posts. You seem to
    rely heavily on 'science' and the existing research. While that
    may provide a good starting point for discussion and
    consideration, it has been shown that the scientific method as
    currently employed today can be highly flawed in cases. I am by
    no means an expert in this area of research and debate, but I do
    know that there are whole dissertations written on this topic. I
    am also not even a novice in optometry research. I am nearly
    completely ignorant. However, others in this forum seem to stress
    the issue of 'vested interests'. I do know that research is
    currently biased in the following ways:

    1. There is bias away from performing studies to prove that one's
    ideas are wrong.

    2. There is a bias away from performing studies which will not
    result in knowledge that will have profitable outcomes.

    3. There is a bias away from performing studies which jeopardize
    the researcher's likelihood of receiving future funding.

    4. There is a bias away from performing studies which jeopardize
    the researcher's likelihood of getting published.

    Does it ever cross your mind that this situation might be
    fogging your field of expertise?


    [Comment: The answer is YES. That is why the preventive
    "second-opinion" developes and that is why ODs like Steve
    Leung have put THEIR OWN CHILDREN in a plus while the child
    still has 20/20. That will be a "sea change" for
    all of us. Please read
    to recognize that even the ODs what to
    protect their children's eyes from
    the minus lens. Keep an open mind. OSB]
    otisbrown, Mar 28, 2005
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    A Lieberman Guest

    Dear Prevention minded friends.

    Disregard Otis postings. I have asked for unbiased proof and he fails to
    provide it.

    A Lieberman, Mar 28, 2005
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    RM Guest

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