She Flunked the DMV Vision Test!

Discussion in 'Eye-Care' started by Dan Abel, Apr 2, 2004.

  1. Dan Abel

    Dan Abel Guest

    My wife went in to renew her driver's license a couple of weeks ago, and
    flunked the vision test. So she had to go see the eye doctor this week.
    She was really dreading it, since she had a bad time last time she went.
    The last time she went she was 17 years old, and she is now 54. She was
    told back then that she had to wear glasses, and for the rest of her
    life. She hasn't worn glasses since then, except she started wearing
    reading glasses about ten years back. She has amblyopia, which was
    diagnosed too late to fix, and so she only has vision in one eye.

    It turned out that she ended up enjoying the visit, and learned a lot from
    the OD.

    Her prescription is:

    OD BAL D.S.
    OS +1.00 +0.75 035

    with a +2.00 add in both eyes.

    Under remarks it states:

    20/400 OD ambly, 20/20 OS

    What does "BAL" for sphere and "D.S." for cylinder mean? Does the 20/400
    and 20/20 in the remarks section mean her best corrected vision in those
    eyes?

    She is getting progressive bifocals, which should be here in a week. She
    will allow some time to get used to the glasses and then retake the DMV
    vision test. The OD assured her that if she had trouble getting used to
    the glasses he would remake them as distance only. She can read OK with
    over the counter reading glasses.

    Thanks for your help.
     
    Dan Abel, Apr 2, 2004
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  2. Dan Abel

    LarryDoc Guest

    BAL means "balance", which means a lens power, curve and thickness to
    make the glasses look good cosmetically as optics doesn't matter. DS
    means "diopter spherical", or cylinder power not required. We sometimes
    write that so the optician doesn't think we just forgot to write the cyl
    component.

    And yes, those 20/XX numbers mean best corrected vision, BVA.
    Try to avoid the DMV vision test line! Go get their DMV Vision Report
    form (your doc *might* have it---I keep a few around) and bring it to
    the OD to fill out. Then hand that in with the license renewal. Make
    sure it has eyeglasses dispensing date on the form.

    Good luck,

    LB

    --
    Dr. Larry Bickford, O.D.
    Family Practice Eye Health & Vision Care

    The Eyecare Connection
    http//www.eyecarecontacts.com
    larrydoc at eye-care-contacts dot com (remove -)
     
    LarryDoc, Apr 2, 2004
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  3. Dan Abel

    Dan Abel Guest


    Thanks! The DMV gave her a form, which she had the OD fill out. I will
    suggest that she have the optician fill in the dispense date when she
    picks up the glasses. Hopefully she won't have to take the test then.


    PS: Our local DMV is wonderful. It's within walking distance of our
    house (so I don't have to drive there), has no lines and has helpful,
    friendly staff.

    You're missing a colon in the line above, which will make some newsreaders
    (like mine) refuse to invoke the browser.
     
    Dan Abel, Apr 2, 2004
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  4. Dan Abel

    LarryDoc Guest

    Wait a minute. Isn't Sonoma in California? Did you say "helpful,
    friendly.."? Are you sure you're talking about Cal. DMV?
    Geez.....where did that colon go? I know I put it there. OK, here it
    is :
     
    LarryDoc, Apr 2, 2004
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  5. PS: Our local DMV is wonderful. It's within walking distance of our
    Larry,

    Sonoma is like a different world from most of the rest of California.
    It seems like just about everybody is nice there. However, how they
    arrived to no lines is beyond me.

    Glenn Hagele
    Executive Director
    Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance

    Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

    http://www.USAeyes.org
    http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

    I am not a doctor.
     
    Glenn Hagele - Council for Refractive Surgery Qual, Apr 3, 2004
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  6. From the medical standpoint, 2 major issues:

    This is a patient with 1 good eye. In order to take care of that only eye, I
    usually recommend an annual eye exam. I don't usually do that for 2-eyed
    people, I think it is overkill in most cases. However, she needs to take
    extra care in this case. Some problems, such as glaucoma and retina, are
    asymptomatic until they are past the point of treatment.

    Secondly, she hasn't had any eye protection for years. An accidental injury
    can claim the vision in this only eye. The reason for wearing glasses for
    the rest of one's life is to have polycarbonate lenses on at all times for
    eye protection. This is separate from the issue of needed optical
    correction. Accidents also happen particularly in the home environment.

    Balance lens means to essentially make a lens that is cosmetically similar
    to the power in the other eye, just to have a second lens in the glasses,
    but no necessarily the same in terms of astigmatism, etc. This lets you
    sometimes use a less expensive lens. The power doesn't matter here due to
    the poor vision. The D.S. Is usually "diopter sphere".
     
    David Robins, MD, Apr 3, 2004
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  7. Dan Abel

    Dan Abel Guest

    Larry,

    Sonoma is like a different world from most of the rest of California.
    It seems like just about everybody is nice there. However, how they
    arrived to no lines is beyond me.[/QUOTE]


    I live and work in small cities in Sonoma COUNTY about ten miles apart.
    There is also a CITY in this county called Sonoma which is really another
    different world. There are two DMVs in this county. I understand that
    the other one has long lines and slow service. My experience at the one
    close to my house is extremely limited. I've been there once. My last
    accident was 40 years ago, and my last ticket about 20 years ago. The DMV
    tends to renew my driver's license by mail. My wife doesn't work, so she
    tends to take care of other DMV issues. So I asked my wife about her
    experience with lines. She was there recently on a Friday and had to wait
    in a long line (about 15 people). However, there were five employees so
    she had about a ten minute wait.


    I refuse to post where this DMV is, because otherwise all of you
    California people will start going there and there will be long lines and
    correspondingly rude employees.


    :)
     
    Dan Abel, Apr 5, 2004
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  8. Dan Abel

    Dan Abel Guest

    A good idea. I don't know about California (which is where you are, right?)
    but in Nevada, where I live, the screening device they use at the DMV pretty
    much requires binocularity, and therefore two functional eyes. The logic
    behind that has always bothered me a bit, as a one-eyed person can legally
    drive. Nonetheless, they invariably flunk the vision screening. I always give
    functionally one-eyed folks a filled out DMV form so they can avoid the
    screening process.[/QUOTE]


    Thanks. Yes, we are in California. They had my wife look at a chart on
    the wall, and then into a machine. My wife was wondering exactly why she
    needed to go to the eye doc as she had 20/40 vision in one eye. Perhaps
    she just misunderstood. The OD said she had 20/50 in her one good eye, so
    she had flunked after all.
     
    Dan Abel, Apr 6, 2004
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  9. I know of what you speak.

    Some time ago I learned of a special DMV office within the legislative
    offices here in Sacramento. It was not listed on any DMV roster, but
    provided all services. It was hidden away so the bigwigs under the
    Capitol dome wouldn't be required to waste their time in DMV lines or
    suffer the humility of standing next to all the riff-raff that
    constitutes their constituency. Little by little the word got out. I
    used it a couple of times, then I was told that the office was ONLY
    for the legislature and legislative staff. Common taxpayers need not
    apply.

    Recently I was at the main Sacramento DMV public office and was amazed
    to see that the wait time for people without appointments was 2 hours
    and 30 minutes. Even more amazing was that the wait time for people
    WITH appointments was longer! That is not suppose to happen, but it
    does.

    Keep your secret. Just the knowledge that someone somewhere is
    getting friendly service from the DMV and in a timely manner is enough
    for me. I'll continue to bring my copy of War and Peace (the Russian
    language version) to keep me busy as I try to prove yet again that I
    paid an ungodly sum to get my car smogged and I really am insured.
     
    Glenn Hagele - Council for Refractive Surgery Qual, Apr 11, 2004
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  10. Dan Abel

    The Real Bev Guest

    Glenn, Hagele, -, Council, for, Refractive, Surgery, Quality, Assurance,
    What it means in Pasadena is that people with appointments get to stand
    in a shorter line. When they first started the appointment thing, they
    called people at their appointed time. I wonder why they stopped doing
    that.

    We once got nabbed coming out of Yosemite by a pissed-off CHP officer
    who was determined to find something to cite and settled on an illegible
    month-sticker that we had to replace. There was NO line in the Fresno
    office. Might be worth the trip...
    Why don't you do this by mail?

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    "Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it
    everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every
    human being who ever was, lived out their lives." -- Carl Sagan
     
    The Real Bev, Apr 12, 2004
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  11. Sorry Bev, I've been to Fresno...I'd rather stand in a DMV line.

    8^)

    Sometimes I cannot, but mostly I do it online or via mail. That is
    probably what the DMV really wants, anyway.
     
    Glenn Hagele - Council for Refractive Surgery Qual, Apr 12, 2004
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  12. Dan Abel

    Dan Abel Guest

    I refuse to post where this DMV is, because otherwise all of you
    California people will start going there and there will be long lines and
    correspondingly rude employees.[/QUOTE]


    Well, my wife went back to the DMV office on Friday. It was Good Friday,
    so she was hoping that there would be no lines. There were only two
    people in front of here, which is pretty good for a DMV. She handed in
    her signed vision form saying that she had 20/20 vision with glasses.
    They made her retake the vision exam anyway, which was no big deal and she
    passed with 20/20. She was hoping that they would then issue her a
    driver's license (they extended her old one while she got glasses) but no,
    now they want her to take a driving test! She didn't want to take it then
    because we had traded vehicles for the day and the truck is not fun to
    maneuver around. So, she has to come back again.
     
    Dan Abel, Apr 12, 2004
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  13. Dan Abel

    The Real Bev Guest

    Glenn, Hagele, -, Council, for, Refractive, Surgery, Quality, Assurance,
    Fresno is OK. Most cities, even small ones, suck. They're a good place
    to go if you have to buy something, but that's about all. Well, OK,
    museums. There are hardly any museums in rural areas, unless you count
    the ones featuring two-headed snakes.
    I'll believe they want you to do it on line when they don't charge you
    to do it, or even cut the price.
     
    The Real Bev, Apr 12, 2004
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  14. Dan Abel

    The Real Bev Guest

    Well, my wife went back to the DMV office on Friday. It was Good Friday,
    so she was hoping that there would be no lines. There were only two
    people in front of here, which is pretty good for a DMV. She handed in
    her signed vision form saying that she had 20/20 vision with glasses.
    They made her retake the vision exam anyway, which was no big deal and she
    passed with 20/20. She was hoping that they would then issue her a
    driver's license (they extended her old one while she got glasses) but no,
    now they want her to take a driving test! She didn't want to take it then
    because we had traded vehicles for the day and the truck is not fun to
    maneuver around. So, she has to come back again.[/QUOTE]

    At least she had the option! My mom had to have a separate appointment
    just to turn in the doctor's form (he said that vision isn't the only
    criterion for being a good driver, and that was apparently sufficient
    for the DMV) and then another appointment for her on-the-road test.
    She'll probably have to do that again next year -- apparently they only
    give 1-year licenses to "the elderly". Each appointment took roughly an
    hour (not including time to find a parking place, which required waiting
    for someone to leave) even though she had an actual appointment time.

    Guess the State of California needs a dictionary.
     
    The Real Bev, Apr 12, 2004
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