Staring at a computer screen all day

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by Justin Voelker, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. I am a computer programmer and as such, 90% of my 8hr work day is
    spent staring at computer screens. After I finished college a year
    ago and starting working full time I noticed that after a few hours of
    working in front of computers my eyes start to hurt and my vision will
    get temporarily get slightly blurry. I have read about "computer
    glasses" but my health plan covers everything except me talking to an
    eye doctor. Can anyone offer advice on what I should do? My parents
    and younger brother have all needed glasses at one point in their life
    and I have been fortunate enough to have slightly better than 20/20
    vision my whole life. I don't want to be forced into glasses
    prematurely because of my job. I wouldn't mind wearing glasses while
    looking at computer screens so as long as I don't need glasses all the
    time. Does anyone know of anything I can do to help in my situation
    since I can't go to an eye doctor? The more comments the better.
    Thanks everyone!
     
    Justin Voelker, Oct 25, 2007
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  2. Justin Voelker

    Mark A Guest

    You can get an eye exam for about $50. Tell the OD you want an Rx to for
    your computer viewing distance (measure it in advance since not everyone is
    the same distance away).
     
    Mark A, Oct 25, 2007
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    Zetsu Guest

    Hello,

    There is a better solution where you will not need $50.
    Every time the pain begins and your vision become temporarily blurry,
    rest them in a way that is effective to you, like you can:

    Close your eyes and then place palms of hands over them, until you
    feel rested and eyes feel strong again and pain has been relieved, or;
    Close your eyes for a while, just resting yourself in the mind.
    Remember the blackest black you can remember but do it in a playful
    way and restful manner that is not straining to you, or, if the pain
    persists by either of these two methods and it is difficult for you to
    rest, then;
    Close your eyes and rest them, by either of the above methods and then
    after you feel rested, say after 5 minutes, then open your eyes for a
    flash of a second and look at something on the screen, then without
    giving the pain a chance to resume itself, close your eyes again and
    rest them again, and keep repeating until you feel well and that all
    you can imagine is a feeling of the uttermost comfort, of rest, and of
    relaxation incessantly, and keep that feeling with you after you have
    rested yourself by this method.

    Remember always, all the time from when you are awake to when you go
    to sleep, remember the feeling of rest, relaxation and comfort
    incessantly. And always, especially at straining environments such as
    the computer screen, keep blinking in the most comfortable and restful
    manner and keep the gaze always shifting around in what way feels
    natural and nice.

    If your breathing is shallow, then relax your respiration and breathe
    comfortably and fully and nicely.

    If you need more help, look at the centralfixation.com website wherin
    are contained articles and papers and books such as 'Better Eyesight
    Magazine' which will tell how to relieve your pain and eliminate
    blurriness by the rest methods as I have described.

    This is the cure, by rest treatment.

    Zetsu
     
    Zetsu, Oct 25, 2007
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  4. Justin Voelker

    Zetsu Guest

    Hello,

    There is a better solution where you will not need $50.
    Every time the pain begins and your vision become temporarily blurry,
    rest them in a way that is effective to you, like you can:

    Close your eyes and then place palms of hands over them, until you
    feel rested and eyes feel strong again and pain has been relieved, or;
    Close your eyes for a while, just resting yourself in the mind.
    Remember the blackest black you can remember but do it in a playful
    way and restful manner that is not straining to you, or, if the pain
    persists by either of these two methods and it is difficult for you to
    rest, then;
    Close your eyes and rest them, by either of the above methods and then
    after you feel rested, say after 5 minutes, then open your eyes for a
    flash of a second and look at something on the screen, then without
    giving the pain a chance to resume itself, close your eyes again and
    rest them again, and keep repeating until you feel well and that all
    you can imagine is a feeling of the uttermost comfort, of rest, and of
    relaxation incessantly, and keep that feeling with you after you have
    rested yourself by this method.

    Remember always, all the time from when you are awake to when you go
    to sleep, remember the feeling of rest, relaxation and comfort
    incessantly. And always, especially at straining environments such as
    the computer screen, keep blinking in the most comfortable and restful
    manner and keep the gaze always shifting around in what way feels
    natural and nice.

    If your breathing is shallow, then relax your respiration and breathe
    comfortably and fully and nicely.

    If you need more help, look at the central-fixation.com website wherin
    are contained articles and papers and books such as 'Better Eyesight
    Magazine' which will tell how to relieve your pain and eliminate
    blurriness by the rest methods as I have described.

    This is the cure, by rest treatment.

    Zetsu
     
    Zetsu, Oct 25, 2007
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  5. Justin Voelker

    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Justin,

    Subject: Contradictory recommendations.

    It is good that you know that your distant visual acuity is
    20/20 at this time.

    It is also good that you anticipate the fact that your
    refractive state can "adjust" to long-term "near" environments.

    I would suggest that you monitor your own Snellen. You
    have nothing to lose by doing this.

    If you wish to do something PREVENTIVE -- you must
    consider getting some low-cost "readers" (off the shelf),
    and use these as "relaxing" glasses.

    For more information on this second-opinion concept, read:

    www.myopiafree.com

    My second-opinion best,

    Otis
     
    otisbrown, Oct 25, 2007
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  6. Dear Otis,

    I like the idea be preventive and buying some cheap reading glasses
    but what do you mean "use them as 'relaxing' glasses?" Also, what
    magnification would you suggest and when would I use them?

    Thanks,
    Justin
     
    Justin Voelker, Oct 25, 2007
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  7. Justin Voelker

    Dan Abel Guest

    See an eye doctor (an optometrist in the US). Good vision is worth a
    whole lot more than the few bucks it will cost you.

    Standard advice for computer vision problems is to take a break every
    few minutes. This won't take more than a few seconds. Look away from
    the screen at something farther away, and blink a few times. If this
    doesn't work after a few days, try eye drops. Try for the ones that are
    nothing but distilled salt water. The ones that "get the red out" will
    cause more harm than good.
     
    Dan Abel, Oct 25, 2007
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  8. Justin Voelker

    Zetsu Guest

    Hello Justin,
    Otis is wrong I am afraid. There is no such thing as 'relaxing
    glasses', all glasses, no matter their power of correction or purpose,
    are corrupt and a form of idiocy for the wearer and through the vision
    and the mind out of its natural balancing mechanism and prevents you
    from being cured easily. The only real solution, which will cost you
    0.00 pennies, is to rest your eyemind which will cure the sight and
    remove the pain and blurriness that you suffer from.

    In any case you must never ever wear glasses, because they will throw
    you into the permanent state of refractive error whereupon it will be
    harder to cure yourself by the rest methods.

    Zetsu
     
    Zetsu, Oct 25, 2007
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  9. Justin Voelker

    Zetsu Guest

    Hello Justin,
    Otis is wrong I am afraid. There is no such thing as 'relaxing
    glasses', all glasses, no matter their power of correction or purpose,
    are corrupt and a form of idiocy for the wearer and throw the vision
    and the mind out of its natural balancing mechanism and prevents you
    from being cured easily. The only real solution, which will cost you
    0.00 pennies, is to rest your eyes and mind with the instructions that
    I have given in my previous reply which will cure the sight and remove
    the pain and blurriness that you suffer from.

    In any case you must never ever wear glasses, because they will throw
    you into the more permanent state of refractive error whereupon it
    will be harder to cure yourself by the rest methods.

    Zetsu
     
    Zetsu, Oct 25, 2007
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  10. Justin Voelker

    otisbrown Guest

    Dear Justin,

    Subject: Two suggestions.

    1. If you have 20/20 (by checking your own eye-chart) then
    perhaps the best idea would be to do nothing at this time.
    That is what MOST people would do. Just being
    prepared (when your Snellen goes to 20/25, 20/30 and 20/40)
    would be a big help. Assuming that you would like
    do more than "wait" for your vision to go down you could:

    2. Get a low-cost "reader" of about 2.0 diopters (for
    about $9 and just try it out. (Any drug store in the
    USA will have these on a rack.) Simply put them
    on an read at about 20 inches. If that feels comfortable
    for you -- then use them.

    If you complained of headaches, or "tired eyes" to an
    OD, he would probably suggest the same idea.

    More commentary:

    Otis> It is often said that "looking up" or looking "in the
    distance" relaxes the eye. The optical effect of a +2 diopter
    lens, is to move your computer-screen to the (optical) distance.
    (This is basic physics and science). Thus I use
    the term "relaxing" in that context.


    Also, what magnification would you suggest and when would I use them?

    Otis> Since you state you are 20/20, your eyes will have a positve
    refractive STATE. (You could check this yourself if you wish.)
    Thus, for instance, if you read at 20 inches (-2 diopters) you
    can use a +2 to exactly neutralize that "environment".

    The concept is just basic engineering and physics.

    Best,

    Otis
     
    otisbrown, Oct 25, 2007
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  11. Justin Voelker

    Ron Peterson Guest

    Nature's Mist eye spray works well without the inconvenience of eye
    drops.
     
    Ron Peterson, Oct 25, 2007
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    Mike Ruskai Guest

    First, either you need glasses or you don't need glasses. You won't
    change that fact by your choice about whether or not to wear them.

    You didn't say how old you are. That's quite relevant for the
    question you posed.

    Beyond the obvious advice to shell out a few bucks to an optometrist,
    you can always try a pair of over-the-counter reading glasses at the
    computer. They'll let you focus without straining your eyes too much.
    If your monitor is about two feet away, something like +1.50 would
    come close to letting your eyes focus on the screen while completely
    relaxed.

    You'll want to try a few pairs at the store, looking at objects that
    are the same distance away as your monitor is while you're working.
    Keep in mind that the glasses are basically making you artificially
    nearsighted while wearing them, so make sure you pick a strength that
    lets you see as far as you need to while you're working.
     
    Mike Ruskai, Oct 26, 2007
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    Mark A Guest

    He said that he recently graduated from college.
     
    Mark A, Oct 26, 2007
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    Dan Abel Guest

    Having worked at a college for 25+ years, I know that many students are
    in their 70's. The median age for students at my college when I started
    was 35. That probably translates into a lot of presbyotic students.
     
    Dan Abel, Oct 26, 2007
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    lena102938 Guest

    It is normal that after all day at computer your vision is "blured"
    at distance
    if blur disappears in half hour after you stop working.
    I have the same effect many years.

    Lightening advise:
    My coworkers and I like to work in the room with dim light
    The less light in the room the better.
    In one place where I worked managers call our room "dark room"
    But it is impossible if another people who work with you like bright
    lite.

    Lena, programmer.
     
    lena102938, Oct 29, 2007
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    Ron Peterson Guest

    I would hope that people have advanced to LCD monitors by now instead
    of the dim CRTs.

    It's better to have a brighter environment and screens so that the
    pupil size is smaller to make it easier to focus on the screen.

    Lighting advisors now recommend flourescent lights with a larger
    amount of blue because the pupil size is reduced more.
     
    Ron Peterson, Oct 30, 2007
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    Dan Abel Guest


    It seems to be getting better, but a lot of professional people are
    still being given CRTs to work with because it would cost too much to
    upgrade them to LCDs. You pay someone US$80,000 a year and won't spend
    US$250 to make their working conditions much better? Oh, I forgot, I
    worked for the State.


    I am retired now, but fought the light battles many times. At first it
    was too bright, and I had to request less light so I could see the CRT
    screen. Then people wanted no light at all. That made it hard to see
    written material. We always worked it out, though.
     
    Dan Abel, Oct 30, 2007
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    Zetsu Guest

    It seems to be getting better, but a lot of professional people are
    Actually, that is not the only reason, in fact they would save money
    if they upgraded anyway (it would take less electricity). Lots of
    professional people actually prefer the CRT monitors because, even
    though LCDs are brighter and modern and nice, CRTs give better more
    accurate image which is also much better if they are designing things
    (CAD) and using graphics applications.
     
    Zetsu, Oct 31, 2007
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