This optician has -2.75 diopters of lenticular astigmastim and sees 20/40 with glasses

Discussion in 'Glasses' started by acemanvx, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. acemanvx

    acemanvx Guest

    At target they had a small area where eye exams are given. I had a
    discussion with the optician about several points. She says I know more
    about optometry than she does! I asked if the optometrist can give a
    psycoplegic refraction and she said yes. I then mentioned I want a
    strong cycoplegia agent, maybe even atropine if the optometrist says
    its suitable. She said the cycoplegia lasts about 3 hours and I told
    her ah thats a weak one and results in incomplete cycoplegic and that a
    decent one will be lasting 8-12 hours. She says I dont really know, ask
    the optometrist. I will be calling him soon to discuss this and
    resolving my pseudomyopia.

    By the way she was wearing glasses which seemed to be near plano so I
    asked what pescription and she says "I have astigmastim only, no
    myopia" I asked her how well she sees without them and she says crappy,
    the letters are disorted and smeared.(hey a bad lasik outcome could
    give an effect like this to varying degrees)I asked her how well she
    sees with glasses and she says 20/40 but my eyes have gotten a bit
    worse, I am gonna try new glases and hopefully achieve a little better.
    (20/30?)

    I got to try her glasses and they are progressives too, when I look
    towards the bottom things appear more blurry but magnified. I am
    getting -2.75 induced astigmastim but while things appeared smeared and
    disorted(squared became mild verticle rectangles!) things overall were
    a bit less blurry. I told her im getting the spherical equivalent with
    myopia corrected on one axix. This makes me -4.5 and +2.75 which can
    also be written as -1.75 and -2.75
    which would blur as much as -3.13(round to -3.25) so I definately
    notice less blur but the quality of vision sucks! Id rather be a -4.5
    with no astigmastim instead! At least things will appear normal and not
    smeared or disorted, just blurry due to defocus. Things from near would
    be clear reciprocal to my myopia so -4.5 is clear from 1/4.5 meters. -3
    would be clear from 1/3 meter. Now I understand why people with
    (equal)more than -1 to 1.5 diopters of astigmastim wear glasses full
    time! Even though this is only equal to -.5 to -.75 spherical
    equivalent myopic blur for 20/25 to 20/30 instead of 20/20, the vision
    quality just sucks! The trouble isnt really so much as seeing letters
    and objects, its the smeared, disorted way they see letters and
    everything. Frankly even though a -1.5 myope may see 20/60, hes more
    functional without correction than a -1.5 astigmatic seeing 20/30!

    Reguarding lasik, now I am getting the idea why some people complain of
    blur even though they end up with vision as good as 20/20. They got
    induced(or incomplete removal)of astigmastim, sometimes of the
    irregular kind which is a bad thing since its much harder to properly
    correct. Get enough induced irregular astigmastim and youll lose lines
    of vision and also have poor quality of vision! All lasik induces high
    order aberrations which disort things in strange ways, probably more
    similar to astigmastim than simple defocus.
     
    acemanvx, Dec 20, 2005
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  2. acemanvx

    RM Guest

    What is the point of your post?

    Are you trying to feed your ego?
    By the way, its "cycloplegic", not "psycoplegic"
     
    RM, Dec 20, 2005
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  3. acemanvx

    Guest Guest

    <> schreef in bericht

    Several snips in a lot of narcistic rimram.

    I asked if the optometrist can give a
    Is this done with birds?

    Old already known facts, but this time, you beeing a laymen mentioned
    something with value to other laymen.
     
    Guest, Dec 20, 2005
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  4. acemanvx

    acemanvx Guest

    This post is an interesting read. as for spelling I suck at it and also
    there phonetic ways to spell words. psy closely substitutes c and ph
    for f. Well this optician did say maybe I should be an optometrist ;)
    as for lasik youd be supprised how many people think 20/20 means
    perfect vision, well it sometimes does but lasik 20/20 isnt always that
    great quality wise.
     
    acemanvx, Dec 21, 2005
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  5. acemanvx

    CatmanX Guest

    Well stated Jan. I am an optometrist and can't follow the clap-trap.

    For example, how does this person have lenticular astigmatism? It is
    usually corneal, especially around 3D of it.

    What does wearing someone elses glasses have to understanding LAsik?
    Most people I speak to think it is great, even the ones with reduced
    acuity.

    Give us a break space ace, get a brain and get a life.

    dr grant
     
    CatmanX, Dec 23, 2005
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  6. acemanvx

    acemanvx Guest

    Do you want me to explain lenticular astigmastim? Id hope you know
    about this that astigmastim can be in the lense as well.


    Wearing glasses that disort things mimics the disortion some people see
    from a bad lasik experience. Anyone who is happy with seeing worse
    after lasik must reeeeeeeeeeally hate glasses even more than he likes
    seeing good.

    I have a brain and probably more of a life than you. Do you insult
    everyone? At least I have manners and this will get me far in life.
     
    acemanvx, Dec 24, 2005
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