vitreous detachment

Discussion in 'Optometry Archives' started by Carl, Jun 8, 2005.

  1. Carl

    Carl Guest

    This seems the right newsgroup to post this.

    About three months ago I started seeing lights. At first I thought it
    was my imagination. It was usually at the corner of my eye and was
    something would flash in and out before I could see it. So for a while
    I thought it was my imagination. Then it would occur somewhere in front
    of my vision. It was like someone would flash a small LED in front of
    my vision once. But not just one colour. It is predominately
    purple/bluish. But sometimes is green, red, orange, white, or yellow.
    So I went to my optometrist. He checked my eyes out and couldn't see
    anything but said he believes its vitreous detachment. I've been
    looking that up to find the symptoms but they don't seem to match.

    Ok now is the weird part and I hope people are open minded for this.
    I've been doing meditation for a year and started doing spiritual stuff
    for about 8 months. There are very few references to this in those
    circles but there are cases of people describing exactly what I'm
    talking about. It does seems to occur to some people. Now I'm open
    minded but at the same time I prefer
    and will explore scientific explanations first. But haven't had much

    I do have a floater in my left eye so I know what floaters are. This is
    not that since I can "find" my floater anytime I want and its
    definitely not coloured. Also these occur anytime. I can be sitting
    down at my desk, reading a book, talking to someone. Doesn't matter. I
    have -6.5 in both eyes. I'm 32.

    Has anyone else had this and/or can point me to sources to look this

    Carl, Jun 8, 2005
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  2. Other than psychological/neurologic problems, the only thing that comes
    to mind is "after images". You would only see them briefly after
    viewing a similar sized, fairly bright object of the complementary color
    in relatively the same location in your visual field. Definitely NOT
    symptoms of a vitreous detachment.
    If you rule out after images, then you have to consider higher brain
    issues, paranormal, and extra-terrestrial issues, if you care to go
    there. There are some people on this group that will no doubt feel right
    at home in any of those areas.
    NOT floaters, for sure.

    w.stacy, o.d.
    William Stacy, Jun 9, 2005
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  3. Carl

    George Guest


    See an opthamologist or go to an local eye clinic for an examination.
    There are tests for vitreous detachment, retinal detachment and most
    everything else. While there are some very good people in this group,
    nothing beats seeing a good eye doctor and discussing the issues with

    George, Jun 9, 2005
  4. Carl

    Carl Guest

    They do kind of look like that. For example if i looked at a light bulb
    and looked away. That would come close to describing what i see. But
    I'm not doing that unless I'm unconsciously finding those light
    sources somehow. But the room doesn't have to be lit for me to see
    them. If i looked at a light bulb the effect lasts for quite a while.
    This is almost instant. I don't usually have time to see if it follows
    my eyes or not. It could of course be psychological/neurolgic. As far
    as i know we don't have a history of that. But its definitely possible!

    Who knows, but thank you for your polite reply :) I'll continue to look
    for medical reasons for these "lights". But I might just have to face
    the facts I won't truly know.
    Definitely not. But I'm not going to worry about it too much unless
    it becomes significantly more common, or obstructs my vision.

    Carl, Jun 9, 2005
  5. Carl

    Carl Guest

    Hello George,

    Well i saw a doctor and saw my optometrist. But i agree its always
    better to see a professional. I was just wondering if anyone here has
    come across these specific symptoms before or had an idea what it could

    Carl, Jun 9, 2005
  6. While a highly skilled optometrist can dilate your pupils and study
    your retina, the next level of care is to be referred to a
    retinologist. An ophthalmologist who specializes in the retina can put
    dye in your veins that makes the blood vessels in the back of the eye
    hyperflouress and show him subtle leaks and cracks that come from
    damage to the macula. You are the right age, gender and refractive
    error to have a number of retinal problems that might not show up on a
    "normal" eye exam. For example, a disease called CSR (central serous
    retinopathy) occurs when a stress hormone called cortisol damages small
    vessels in the macula, causing fluid to leak between the macula and its
    blood supply and a central vision loss. It can start as just random,
    colored lights when the first few cells are being stimulated.

    I've been an optometrist for 25 years, and the more years I see high
    myopes with problems, the more I believe that every high myope over 6D
    should have a regular annual visit with a retina specialist to make
    sure that there are no "cracks in the wall" that I might miss on a
    normal thorough exam.
    doctor_my_eye, Jun 9, 2005
  7. Carl

    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    I believe in dilating the eyes and checking the retinas. If I see
    something that needs treatment, I send it on. That would seem to be a
    more efficient use of healthcare dollars then to send every high myope
    to see the retinal specialist, regardless.

    Dr. Leukoma, Jun 9, 2005
  8. Carl

    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    I concur that there is probably some vitreo-retinal traction of the
    macula involved, particularly since it is central and involves color.
    You might want to have someone take another look. Is the visual acuity
    effected, and did you undergo a test using an Amsler grid?

    Dr. Leukoma, Jun 9, 2005
  9. I fully understand both viewpoints. The uncomfortable fact is that the
    ability to find small retinal breaks in the extreme periphery is a
    variable talent, even among retinologists. My modus is to take a
    careful look, but if the history makes me suspicious and I don't see
    anything that corresponds to my suspicion, I'll refer anyway, just to be
    sure. One thing for sure, since I don't use a scleral depressor and I
    don't dilate as widely as the retina guys, there are things they can see
    that I can't.
    William Stacy, Jun 9, 2005
  10. Carl

    Dr. Leukoma Guest

    Well, I think it is only appropriate that you do what you feel
    comfortable doing. In my case, I have been doing it long enough to
    have a high index of comfort with my own examination. Most retinal
    specialists I know don't have a problem looking at anything I refer,
    but most do not want to have their waiting rooms full of high myopes
    without pathology.

    Dr. Leukoma, Jun 9, 2005
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